Host, Mel Barrett, is bringing you another case that will blow your mind.

Veronika Rodriguez reported her rape to police. She even had evidence to prove it happened. Still police didn't believe her and turned her from victim, to accused, to convicted.

Mel hadn’t planned to make a several episode push about one subject in between seasons, but this story has fallen into her lap and she can’t look away. Veronika has been tried and convicted of making a false report of sexual assault and felony wiretapping in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvaia. She is awaiting sentencing on August 20, 2025.

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To email Pam your condolences, go to SecurusTech.net and add Pam as a contact. Here's her info: 

PAMELA SMART 

93G0356 

Bedford Hills Correctional Facility

You'll have to pay for stamps, but it's a minimal cost. 

If you'd like to donate to Pam's legal fight, donate here: https://www.payit2.com/f/supportpamelasmart

All the money raised goes to Pam's legal team who are working pro-bono right now to file her new Habeus Petition. They have a VERY STRONG case and have already paid experts for their time, but as they're in Maryland, they'll all need to travel to New Hampshire for hearings, so your donation goes to funding a good legal team, expert witnesses, travel, and administrative expenses. 

If you'd like to donate to Pam directly for commissary (food, toiletries, etc), go here: jpay.com and enter in the same info for Pam as above.

Thanks for all you do, lovely listeners. I'd love to get a campaign going for Pam like the one created for Karen Read. 

If you're interested in being involved, have ideas, or just want to know more, feel free to email: [email protected]

Join host, Mel Barrett, as she wraps up the Karen Read case, analyzes the post trial media, discusses what's next for the investigation and her own work on other cases.

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Rebecca + Kevin from Crime Writers On and your host, Mel break down what happened on the final day of the Karen Read retrial - including a wild thing that happened in a parking lot in Dedham.

Join host Mel Barrett as she breaks down the goings on in the retrial of Karen Read. This is week eight. The defense rests. Shockingly the Commonwealth doesn't offer a rebuttal and closing arguments keep us riveted before the jury gets the case.

We'll have a verdict any day now.

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In this special episode drop, host Mel Barrett introduces Crime Seen, a true crime review podcast that gets to the heart of how true crime stories are told with hosts Mari Forth & Sarah Carradine. Mel was a recent guest on the show and discussed the Pamela Smart case in some depth as well as the true crime documentary, #Cybersleuths: The Idaho Murders. 

Please rate, review, and subscribe for all the true crime pods you listen to. It really helps creators grow and bring awareness to cases that might not otherwise get the attention they deserve. 

CRIME SEEN: https://crimeseenpod.com/ 

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Join host Mel Barrett as she breaks down the goings on in the retrial of Karen Read. This is week seven. The defense is well into their case while one cop loses her mind and another switches sides. Also those gross texts from Michael Proctor make another appearance.

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The state of New Hampshire keeps doing what they've done for 35 years...hating on Pamela Smart. Want to start changing minds?

Link to NH Bulletin Article: https://newhampshirebulletin.com/2025/06/05/republicans-pass-parental-rights-bills-as-democrats-allege-children-will-be-harmed/

Link to Rep DeSimone's NH Rep page: https://gc.nh.gov/house/members/member.aspx?member=376807

Contact Governor Kelly Ayotte: https://www.governor.nh.gov/contact-governor-ayotte

PAYIT2 Legal Fund: https://www.payit2.com/f/supportpamelasmart

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Join host Mel Barrett as she breaks down the goings on in the retrial of Karen Read. This is week six and as you might expect from the Commonwealth...they introduce another tedious witness, their last, Dr. Judson Welcher. And the Commonwealth rests!

 

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