Lead the People

#139: Fulfillment at Work Isn’t a Perk — It’s Your Responsibility with Matt Ley


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In this episode, Matt Ley, Co-Founder of IPN Advisors and author of Manage Your Gaps, joins the show to explore how fulfillment, energy, and effective management intersect to drive purpose and performance.

He shares how his concept of Fulfillment ROI helps leaders and teams track the energy they invest and the value they receive, revealing simple shifts that can lead to more meaningful, energized work. From his EPIC management model to redefining the difference between rock stars and rising stars, Matt offers a fresh take on what it means to lead well, stay grounded, and thrive in your role.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Fulfillment happens when the value you get from work outweighs the energy you put in.
  2. Tracking daily energy and value reveals patterns that affect motivation and burnout.
  3. The EPIC model helps managers create clarity, alignment, and momentum.
  4. Leaders should support both rising stars chasing growth and rock stars who thrive in their current role.
  5. Management isn’t about doing more. It’s about enabling others to create more value.
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    Additional Resources:

    Matt Ley | Co-Founder, IPN Advisors & Author, “Manage Your Gaps”: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattley/

    https://www.ipnadvisors.com/

    Follow Matt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattpoepsel/

    Follow PeopleForward Network on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/peopleforward-network/posts/?feedView=all

    Learn more about PeopleForward Network: http://www.peopleforwardnetwork.com/

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