This episode (recorded 9/1/20) starts in the gutter but quickly develops into a conversation about real estate and exodus-related price increases in states like Utah, Idaho and Colorado, where remote workers flock after realizing they don't need to tolerate the bullshit imposed by city, county and state governments in places like California or New York. Bullshit like increasing state taxes to the point that the most productive people — those most able to pay higher taxes — leave the state. And to impose those increases retroactively ... who in their right mind would participate in this Ponzi scheme? But since that topic was too serious and depressing we revisited the Ginocyde pizza shop idea, came up with the motto, "One slice at a time," because nothing goes better with pizza than self-determination, and realized that we are one cardboard box and logo away from opening at our new location, "Down the tracks, not across them." Enjoy!