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Jenny Maguire's journey to becoming Students Union President of Trinity College Dublin was far from ordinary. From attending an all-boys school, to running (unsuccessfully) for class president, to finding out that what may seem like setbacks at the time, were really only opportunities for her to grow and learn.

It was a pleasure to chat with her and, as an old foggy who thinks that he knows it all, realise that I can still learn something. Enjoy.

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