Kimberly Atkins Stohr is joined by Jamal Simmons and discuss the anxiety surrounding the upcoming election, the importance of civic engagement, and the challenges faced by trailblazers in politics. 

They reflect on the role of institutions in democracy, the need for patience and hope, and the significance of celebrating progress and diversity in leadership. The conversation emphasizes the importance of taking action and staying engaged in the democratic process, even amidst frustrations and challenges.