The great thing about books is they are portals into another world. Imaginative play often comes out of books. Carole is joined by Ellison to talk about his own learning journey. 

In this episode, you’ll hear about: 

• The way reading leads to imaginative play
• How Ellison overcame some learning disabilities 
• Creating a rich home life 
• The power of wilderness in spiritual formation
• What Ellison would have changed in his academic pursuit
• The role of the Church in cultivating imagination

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