This episode unpacks the meaning of the verse: "The Kingdom of Heaven suffers violence and the violent take it by force." (Mattthew 11:12).

Cyndi provides insights from St. Gregory the Great and St. John Chrysostom - showing that "holy violence" isn't about agression, but about determination. It's the inner strength that pushes through discouragement, forgives when its difficult and keeps showing up for God when it would be easier to quit. Perseverance is what it means to "take heaven by force."