This is a theme that we have been wanting to explore on the podcast for months, but have been dragging our feet. (Perhaps because we both identify closely with this pattern). We looked for an expert on this, and reached out to Melody Beattie last year, author of the best seller “Codependent No More”.  She agreed to come on the podcast but requested we wait until the Fall when she had a new book coming out.  Melody passed away this past February at the age of 76.  May you Rest In Peace Melody and thank you for opening so many of our eyes to the pattern of codependency.

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