In Part Two of our conversation, Jen Pastiloff shares from the beating heart of her new book, Proof of Life - a work that was birthed through grief, trauma, beauty, and a fierce devotion to truth. This episode is a masterclass in living unfiltered, trusting the body, and speaking the unspeakable.

We go deeper into her creative process, the limitations of traditional wellness spaces, and what it means to parent while unlearning self-abandonment. Jen offers an invitation not to perform or perfect, but to pause. To feel. To say what is real.

This conversation is for the humans who are doing their best to stay in their bodies and live from a place of honest belonging.

You’ll also hear about:

• (01:55) Why she almost didn’t give her TEDx talk and what happened next
• (05:30) Her relationship to voice, silence, and speaking from the body
• (09:35) Why she tells her son: “You can be mad at me and I still love you”
• (14:20) The energetic power of writing and her new book Proof of Life
• (18:35) How she reclaims motherhood, worthiness, and creative identity

Jen reminds us that healing is not about fixing what’s broken — it’s about remembering who we are underneath the noise.

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