"Trump has brought the rural voice back into play," Shelley Lenz told me on this episode of Plain Talk.

Lenz is the Democratic-NPL candidate for governor, challenging Republican incumbent Doug Burgum, and while she clearly doesn't like Trump overall, she is critical of her own party for not paying enough attention to the priorities of rural Americans.

"Urban Democrats are misinformed," she told me.

Much of our conversation, as you might expect, focused on the COVID-19 pandemic and Burgum's response to it. Lenz says Burgum has "failed" by, among other things, not paying enough attention to the advice from medical experts.

"He's not a doctor," Lenz said.

She also spoke about her "homegrown prosperity" platform that would seek to promote more investment in North Dakota.