Mr Barton Maths Podcast

#187 How to coach responsively with Josh Goodrich


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In this episode, Craig Barton interviews Josh Goodrich, the co-founder and CEO of Step Lab, about his experience as an English teacher and his work in teacher education. They discuss the importance of instructional coaching and the challenges schools face in implementing effective coaching programs. Josh emphasizes the need for schools to de-implement ineffective practices and create a culture that supports coaching. He also introduces the concept of mental models and how they impact teachers' ability to change their practice. The conversation highlights the importance of awareness, insights, goals, and specific technical knowledge in coaching teachers. The conversation explores the coaching process and the importance of challenging misconceptions, using critical evidence, and introducing new ideas. It emphasizes the need for observation, hypothesis formation, and gathering evidence to support coaching sessions. The conversation also discusses the use of a framework for lesson observation and the importance of diagnostic questions. Additionally, it highlights the value of rehearsal and planning for implementation, as well as the inclusion of why diagnostics and suggested actions in coaching. The chapter concludes by emphasizing the significance of rehearsal in building habits and shaping teaching techniques. In this conversation, Josh and Craig discuss the implementation of coaching in education. They explore the journey of overcoming the initial awkwardness of coaching and the importance of planning forward. They emphasize the need to link coaching to learning objectives and the value of scripting and refining coaching sessions. They also share stories of coaching challenges and lessons learned. The conversation delves into the effectiveness of live coaching and the benefits of group rehearsal. They discuss the logistics of small group coaching and the role of diagnostic questions. Finally, they reflect on the changing perspectives on coaching and the importance of mental models in coaching.


You can access the show-notes here: mrbartonmaths.com/blog/how-to-coach


  1. Education, teaching, and music with a former English teacher. (5:33)
  2. Teaching strategies and reflecting on early years of teaching. (12:19)
  3. Teacher's struggles with classroom management and improvement with coaching. (15:35)
  4. Instructional coaching in education. (20:50)
  5. Implementing coaching programs in schools. (27:10)
  6. Coaching and changing teacher practice. (30:00)
  7. Improving teaching methods through mental models. (35:10)
  8. Teacher experience and mental models. (37:52)
  9. Coaching teachers to overcome misconceptions in the classroom. (42:55)
  10. Teaching framework and lesson planning. (49:35)
  11. Coaching techniques for teachers. (52:18)
  12. Teaching strategies and classroom observations. (57:44)
  13. Coaching techniques for math lessons. (1:01:52)
  14. Coaching techniques for teachers. (1:05:22)
  15. Coaching techniques for teachers. (1:10:48)
  16. Improving teaching methods through rehearsals and planning. (1:15:49)
  17. Rehearsing teaching techniques to improve effectiveness. (1:19:30)
  18. Coaching techniques for teachers. (1:23:21)
  19. Coaching experiences and diagnostic strategies. (1:27:31)
  20. Live coaching in education. (1:32:37)
  21. Coaching in education, including feedback and classroom management. (1:35:11)
  22. Coaching techniques in education. (1:40:32)
  23. Improving coaching in a department. (1:45:31)
  24. Coaching and teaching methods. (1:48:50)
  25. Coaching in education with valuable insights. (1:54:15)

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