Ok this is a big one: Professor Emeritus of Leisure Studies and author of Free Time and Age of Experiences Benjamin Kline Hunnicutt joins for a lively discussion on the possibility of leisure and freedom in the age of experience.

Other subjects: Jeffersonian Democracy, taking Eugene McCarthy to the airport, the spark of poetic creativity, Frank Lloyd Wright, UBI, the heart of the work ethic destroyed, work as religion, the future of work and automation, craftsmanship, the history of shortening labor hours, Rexford Tugwell and The Brain Trust, overproduction into consumerism, towards experiences over commodities, the appreciation of community, faith, and love.