Some defeats are better than others and getting warmly clapped by all four sides of Carrow Road doesn't feel like the worst response to a defeat — which was the reception for Norwich City as they went down 2-1 to Birmingham on Saturday.

The On The Ball Podcast team of Ryan Livermore, Dan Brigham, Zoe Morgan and Steve Sanders reflects on yer classic game of two halves, and works out how and where the winning run ended. And the Sarg-a is finally over, as Josh Sargent looks set to put pen to paper on his protracted move to Toronto FC ... and gets the heartfelt farewell you would expect.

Plus, two clubs in an even worse crisis than having Liam Manning in charge, the prawn sandwich brigade gains another member, children with banners get short shrift, and everyone loves Refcam.

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