When momentum shows up, it feels amazing.
But momentum can also hide what’s about to break.

That’s why Episode 204 of the Fly on the Wall Podcast is such an important conversation.

I sit down with my buddy Nathan (pastoring a great church in Ohio) to talk about how to bring out the best in your team—and how to keep getting better even when things are going well.

Nathan asks a question every leader needs to wrestle with:

How do you keep growing in seasons of momentum… instead of getting comfortable and plateauing again?

In this episode, we cover:

Why asking tough questions is one of the greatest leadership skills you can develop

The “Think Tank” rhythm: setting aside time to improve systems on purpose

A question that exposes weak systems fast: “If we doubled, what would break?”

Why leaders must resist stability and embrace disruption before the bell curve hits

How to raise leaders who stay strong when things get hard—not just when things are easy

Why every leader needs a growth plan (career path + accountability)

The difference between pioneers, builders, and maintainers—and how churches drift into maintenance

Practical framework for running a capital campaign with clarity and momentum

If you’re seeing momentum again—or praying for it—this episode will help you stay ahead of the curve and build leaders who can carry what’s coming next.

🎧 Listen to Episode 204 now and sit in on this coaching conversation.

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👋 About Us
Fly on the Wall Podcast, presented by Church Boom, takes pastors into a live coaching session with Chris Sonksen, CEO & Founder of Church Boom. Each episode features a pastor, just like you, as they share the challenges they face and get practical advice on how to overcome them.