As we wrap up an incredible year of leadership conversations, we’re bringing back one of the most listened-to Fly on the Wall episodes of the year.

Pastor Darryl Beckett joined Chris Sonksen for a powerful discussion that resonated deeply with pastors, planters, and rural leaders across the country. The heartbeat of the episode is one defining question: 

Would your city feel the loss if your church closed its doors?

In this listener favorite, you’ll explore:
• How to break out of low attendance patterns and build early momentum
• Why tracking spiritual and numerical growth matters
• What it means to be a church your city can’t imagine losing
• How to learn what your community actually needs
• The long-term fruit of asking, “How can we serve you?”

We can’t think of a better episode to close the year with.

🎧 Tune in to one of our top episodes: Episode 164

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What if the strength of your ministry wasn’t just in how you lead—but in how you follow?

In this week’s Fly on the Wall Podcast, I talk with Pastor Brett about one of the most overlooked keys to ministry health: learning to support your leader. We unpack what it looks like to steward another person’s vision, lead with loyalty, and build unity that lasts.

Here’s what we cover in Episode 194:

How to serve under leadership without losing your voice

The difference between loyalty and silence

Why alignment determines growth

How to strengthen your pastor’s confidence—and your team’s culture

What it really means to “protect the DNA” of your church

Plus, we touch on bivocational ministry and practical ways to lead strong in every season.

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Hey Pastor,

What do you do when growth creates pressure—and not everyone’s ready for what’s next?

In this week’s episode of the Fly on the Wall Podcast, I sit down with Pastor Marty from a small but growing church in rural America to talk about one of the most practical leadership challenges we all face: how to manage change and mobilize volunteers when your systems are stretched to the limit.

We unpack the realities of increasing attendance, limited space, and a stretched team—and how to lead through those pain points with vision, structure, and confidence.

Here’s what we dive into in Episode 194:

• Why activity beats results when it comes to church growth
• How to shift your team from building teams to building tribes
• What invisible momentum really looks like—and how to create it
• How to expand your volunteer base in 90-day sprints
• What to do when your current culture is resisting your next level

If you’re feeling stuck between what’s working and what’s next, this conversation will give you the clarity and confidence to move forward without burning out or backing down.

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What if coaching isn’t a luxury—but a lifeline?

In this week’s Fly on the Wall Podcast, I talk with Pastor Steve from California about two things every leader needs to get better at: receiving coaching and casting vision.

Here’s what we break down in Episode 192:

• Why every pastor needs a coach (yes, even you!)
• The difference between coaching and consulting—and why both matter
• How to communicate vision with clarity, language, and urgency
• The biggest mistake leaders make when casting vision
• What separates professionals from amateurs (hint: it’s not talent)

Plus, I’ll show you how Church Boom’s Coaching Certification Program can become your next chapter—or your second income stream. It’s online, at your own pace, and designed to equip you to coach other pastors.

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What if the biggest growth barrier in your church… is your leadership pipeline?

In this week’s Fly on the Wall Podcast, I sit down with Pastor Darren from Oklahoma to talk about the difference between discipleship and leadership development, the qualities that set apart high-capacity leaders, and how to stop leaving leadership to chance.

Here’s what we get into in Episode 191:

Why “just being discipled” isn’t enough

What Jesus modeled in leadership circles—and how to do the same

The exact traits we look for when apprenticing potential leaders

How to identify grit, hunger, and trajectory

Why high-level leaders change everything

If your dream is to multiply your reach, expand your impact, and develop leaders who build leaders, this episode is a must.

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It’s one thing to grow a church—it’s another thing to sustain that growth with the right leaders in the right places.

In Episode 190 of the Fly on the Wall Podcast, I sit down with Pastor Eli from Ohio for a powerful conversation about building leadership pipelines that work—not just for a season, but for the long haul.

If you’ve ever felt like you’re constantly plugging holes, re-training the same people, or doing too much yourself, this episode is going to hit home.

Here’s what we talk about:

• How to build a repeatable leadership development system
• Why ownership beats volunteering every time
• The one mindset shift that changes how people show up to serve
• What to do when your team starts feeling stale or disengaged
• How clarity + coaching leads to sustainable growth

Eli shares the actual systems they’ve used to raise up hundreds of volunteers and leaders—and how those systems freed him to focus on what matters most.

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There are two big questions we don’t talk about enough in ministry:

1. How do I prepare now for the next 20 years of leadership and life?
2. What do I do with the pain I’ve already walked through?

In Episode 189 of the Fly on the Wall Podcast, I sit down with Pastor Jonathan for a powerful, vulnerable conversation on both. We talk about financial readiness, family rhythms, spiritual obedience—and the emotional toll ministry can take when betrayal and burnout hit home.

You’ll hear:

• What it looks like to prepare for your second chapter—whether that’s retirement or a new way to lead
• Why obedience matters more than “balance” in family life
• A simple heart-check to evaluate if you’re really walking in spiritual health
• How I’ve processed deep wounds from people I trusted
• Why coaching, forgiveness, and leadership clarity matter now more than ever

Whether you're in a season of building, rebuilding, or looking ahead—this conversation will challenge you to lead with intentionality and finish well.

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Episode 188 of the Fly on the Wall podcast is here, and it's a must-listen for any church ready to stand out in a crowded city.

In this episode, Chris Sonksen sits down with Pastor Brian from New Mexico for a dynamic coaching session on how to differentiate your church, double in size, and scale with clarity and confidence.

If you’ve ever wrestled with how to define your church’s unique identity—or how to build smart structure without losing heart—this one is packed with gold.

🎧 In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

• What a USP (Ultimate Strategic Position) is—and why your church needs one
• How to maximize your staff and team by clarifying mission-critical tasks
• Why many churches stall at 500 and what to do differently
• How to go from team to tribe—and build lasting volunteer culture
• The biggest mistakes leaders make when scaling from 500 to 1,000+
• How to evaluate if someone actually belongs at your leadership table

Whether you’re a church of 150 or 1,500, this conversation will stretch your leadership and help you make strategic shifts that lead to healthy, sustained growth.

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Episode 187 of the Fly on the Wall podcast is live—and it’s a big one for pastors and leaders.

In this episode, Chris Sonksen sits down with Pastor Clyde to tackle a quiet challenge that’s holding churches back: We’re great at building teams, but not at building tribes.

👉 If your volunteers feel like they're just filling a spot…
 👉 If your part-time or stipend staff aren’t sure what’s expected…
 👉 If your staff meetings lack energy and buy-in…

This episode is exactly what you need.

🎧 You’ll discover:

• Why people don’t stay committed to teams—but they will to tribes
• How to raise the bar with volunteers (without overwhelming them)
• A practical way to make every staff member effective, no matter their hours
• How to lead better staff meetings that spark buy-in, creativity, and momentum
• Simple shifts that will turn your church from “meh” to magnetic

🛠️ Chris also shares how small, strategic changes at the top can build a culture of ownership from the ground up.

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Episode 186 of the Fly on the Wall podcast just dropped—and this one is packed with insights that can help any pastor lead with greater focus, clarity, and momentum.

In this episode, Chris Sonksen sits down with Pastor Nathan from Tennessee to unpack a bold question:

From coaching thousands of pastors across the country, Chris has spotted a few patterns—and a few major pitfalls. If your church is growing (or wants to), this conversation will help you get ahead of the bell curve.

🎯 In this episode, you’ll learn:

• The 4 biggest mistakes most lead pastors are making
• What it really means to lead from your “mission critical”
• How to structure your team now for the church you’ll be a year from now
• Why fast, fluid, and flexible leaders build momentum
• And how to raise up leaders who are already part of your church

📍 This isn’t theory—it’s practical coaching you can apply this week.

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