In this episode of Hard at Work, Ellen sits down with Robbin Hudson — founder and CEO of Gradient, the Human Equity Think Tank, and an executive and leadership coach. Together, they dig into what it means to truly lead with people at the center — and why so many workplaces still get it so wrong.

Robbin shares her journey from philanthropy and grassroots leadership development to founding Gradient, a consulting and coaching firm that prioritizes human equity over doing things they way they've always been done. She explains how deep listening, brave spaces, and “starting at stuck” help leaders and organizations align who they say they want to be with who they actually are.

They talk about how intergenerational workplaces, burnout, and “golden handcuffs” keep people stuck — and how clarifying your core values and building both a “stay plan” and a “go plan” can help you get unstuck. Robbin also offers real talk for managers trying to create change inside systems that resist it, plus why your story — and your unique leadership DNA — matter.

Whether you’re an executive, a middle manager, or someone trying to survive a system that doesn’t center your humanity, you’ll walk away from this episode with practical wisdom on how to start — right where you are.

Keywords: human-centric leadership, executive coaching, nonprofit leadership, DEI consulting, brave leadership, burnout at work, intergenerational workplaces, leadership DNA, coaching for leaders, storytelling at work, psychological safety, people and culture, human equity think tank, Gradient Consulting, Start at Stuck, values-based leadership, workplace culture change, philanthropic leadership, boundary setting, career clarity, stuck at work