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James Onieal joins us to unpack the rollercoaster of recent airline developments—from unexpected furlough announcements to hiring surges at major carriers like UPS. We explore the emotional and professional impacts of such turbulent times on pilots, emphasizing the critical importance of resilience and strategic career planning.
Show Notes
0:00 Breaking News
6:06 Advice For Pilots Being Furloughed
23:20 Information Without Context
33:38 Furloughed Mindset
42:19 Starting over at age 40?
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Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Click Here to Schedule a Meeting
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VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral ProgramDo you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
They guys check in with their college buddy Ted to get the real story on what it's like to fly the 787. Plus: Mailbag and Flight Advice
Show Notes
0:00 Intro & Updates
7:53 Hard Landing Book Club
14:29 Straight Talk With Ted
23:19 Trip Scheduling & Crew Positions
44:49 Listener Reviews
48:21 Mailbag: Audio / Non Rev / 141 Program / Tim Pope
1:02:45 Flight Advice: Pilot Job Regardless of Salary
Hard Landing: The Epic Contest for Power and Profits That Plunged the Airlines into Chaos by Thomas Petzinger JrTim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
Join us in supporting the Pilot Mental Health Campaign by making adonating. Listener Rick S will match 21.Five listeners donations up to $1000!
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Our sponsors:
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?"The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral ProgramDo you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
Timothy P. Pope, CFP, joins the guys to discuss the significant financial implications of the new Southwest Airlines contract for pilots, focusing on pay raises, bonuses, and enhanced retirement contributions. Pope emphasizes strategic financial planning to navigate these changes, including tax considerations and the benefits of market-based cash balance plans. The conversation highlights Tim's expertise in financial planning for pilots, offering practical advice for maximizing financial well-being in light of the contract updates.
Show Notes
3:35 Southwest's Ratification Bonus & Other Changes
10:28 Preparing Clients for the Future
16:59 Market-Based Cash Balance Plan
20:44 Disability Benefits
27:32 Imputed Income
29:45 Final Takeaways
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
Join us in supporting the Pilot Mental Health Campaign by making adonating. Listener Rick S will match 21.Five listeners donations up to $1000!
21Five's Youtube Channel
Connect with us on LinkedIn
Our sponsors:
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?"The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral ProgramDo you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
The guys recap their vacations and Max talks about playing the non-rev game // The latest PJP drama (recorded prior to the release of JC's rebuttal video) // We've both performed go-arounds recently, Dylan and Max both reflect // Mailbag: Clarity Aloft vs. Bose Proflight, More jumpseat headset observations, EVTOL thoughts // Flight Advice: #1 - College student asks for advice on applying for internships. #2 - Should I sign a training contract in a cadet program?
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Join us in supporting the Pilot Mental Health Campaign by making adonating. Listener Rick S will match 21.Five listeners donations up to $1000!
21Five's Youtube Channel
Connect with us on LinkedIn
Our sponsors:
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?"The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral ProgramDo you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
Billy Nolen, Chief Safety Officer for Archer and former FAA Administrator, joins us to update us on the EVTOL space. Billy gets us up to speed on the latest regulator news as well as technology EVTOLs are operating. We ask Billy everyone's burning question: will I be able to fly one with my fixed wing certificate?
5:06 EVTOLs & Time Savings 12:28 Training, Certification, Integration 21:48 Manufacturing & Ease of Use 31:43 Safety, Design & Cost 50:01 Creating Change: Pilot Mental Health 55:03 Mandatory Retirement Age
Learn more about Archer EVTOLs
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Join us in supporting the Pilot Mental Health Campaign by making adonating. Listener Rick S will match 21.Five listeners donations up to $1000!
21Five's Youtube Channel
Connect with us on LinkedIn
Our sponsors:
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?"The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral ProgramDo you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
The guys discuss the NTSB report on the Challenger 604 crash in Naples // Mailbag: What's our opinion on Meowing on Guard, More comments on the headset in the jumpseat discussion, Feedback on training episode, Listener meets Dylan at PHX // Flight Advice, Texas Style: San Antonio based Medivac pilot loves his job but wonders if he's missing out? Plus: Houston corporate pilot has a great gig but is still experiencing FOMO.
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Our sponsors:
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?"The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral ProgramDo you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
In this episode, we're joined by Seth Lake, SWA Pilot and an FAA Designated Pilot Examiner (DPE), who shares invaluable insights into the life of a DPE and its potential as a side gig for professional pilots. Seth delves into the current dynamics of the flight training industry, outlines the qualifications necessary to become a DPE, and offers strategic advice to make your application stand out. Beyond the intricacies of becoming a DPE, Seth provides essential checkride tips for student pilots. The episode wraps up with a memorable story from Seth, recounting a humorous experience with a nervous student during a checkride.
Links Seth mentions in the interview:
Dynamic Regulatory System: Home of the 8900.1, which is the Flight Standards Information Management System. Volume 5, Chapter 2 acts as our guidebook for conducting practical tests as DPEs.
8000.95 Designee Management Policy - Lists the specific qualifications needed by pilots applying to be a DPE in Chapter 2.
8000.2C General Aviation Airman Designee Handbook - Most of this is superseded by the 8900.1 and 8000.95, but we still use Ch 7, Sect 2-11 & 13-21
Designee Management System (DMS) - This website is where we manage our practical tests and where users need to create an account in order to apply to become a DPE.
Designee Registration System (DRS) - This website has the online training portal for the DPE training you need to accomplish before being designated.
Learn more about Seth Lake's company, VSL Aero
Connect with Seth Lake on LinkedIn
Join us in supporting the Pilot Mental Health Campaign by making adonating. Listener Rick S will match 21.Five listeners donations up to $1000!
21Five's Youtube Channel
Connect with us on LinkedIn
Our sponsors:
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?"The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral ProgramDo you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
Challenger 350 vs. Gulfstream G280: with limited knowledge and poorly researched facts, Dylan and Max try to settle the debate on which super-mid is better // Mailbag: Listener shares crop dusting story, should I plug in headset in the jumpseat, Listener Rick offers to match donations to PMHC up to $1000! // Flight Advice: Ben Fuller from International Trip Planning Services joins us to explain the new Mexican Permit process.
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International Trip Planning Services
Questions for Benjamin Fuller can be sent to: [email protected]
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Our sponsors:
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?"The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral ProgramDo you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
In this episode, we delve into the world of aviation training with Dave from Advanced Air Crew Academy. As the Director of Instructional Design, Dave shares innovative approaches to enhancing recurrent training for 135 pilots, moving beyond traditional, formulaic methods to scenario-based learning. This technique aims to shift pilots' attitudes towards training, making it more engaging and effective by simulating real-world challenges pilots face. Through Dave's insights, we explore how storytelling and practical, scenario-driven exercises can significantly impact pilots' decision-making skills and overall safety in aviation.
Eye of the Pilot: Advanced Aircrew Academy's Scenario Based Training
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Our sponsors:
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?"The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral ProgramDo you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
The guys catch up on their recent adventures including a vist to St. Maarten and a backcountry trip in the Murphey Moose // Failed JetBlue/Spirit merger fallout // Dylan has a Top Gun moment // Mailbag: Listener shares a story of flying with an unprofessional captain, Marriott points follow-up, ground-breaking new beer idea // Flight Advice: Starting your aviation career at 50 years old: what's the fastest way to get to the majors?
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Our sponsors:
Harvey Watt, offers the only true Loss of Medical License Insurance available to individuals and small groups. Because Harvey Watt manages most airlines' plans, they can assist you in identifying the right coverage to supplement your airline's plan. Many buy coverage to supplement the loss of retirement benefits while grounded. Visit harveywatt.com to learn more!
Advanced Aircrew Academy enables flight operations to fulfill their training needs in the most efficient and affordable way—anywhere, at any time. We do this by providing high-quality professional pilot, flight attendant, flight coordinator, maintenance, and line service training modules delivered via the web using a world-class online aviation training system. Visit aircrewacademy.com to learn more!
Tim Pope is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His financial planning practice provides services to aviation professionals and aviation 401k plans. Tim helps clients pursue their financial goals by defining them, organizing & optimizing resources, planning, implementing, and monitoring their financial plan. Visit https://link.21fivepodcast.com/timothy-pope to learn more. Check out Tim's new podcast: The Pilot Money Podcast
Employee Compensation Software That Answers "What's the Going Rate?"The AirComp Calculator™ is business aviation's only online compensation analysis system. It can provide precise compensation ranges for 14 business aviation positions in six aircraft classes at over 50 locations throughout the United States in seconds.
VAERUS MEANS RIGHT, TRUE, AND REAL.Buy or sell an aircraft the right way, using a true partner, to make your dream of flight real. Connect with Brooks at Vaerus Jet Sales | Learn more about the DC-3 Referral ProgramDo you have feedback, suggestions, or a great aviation story to share? Email us [email protected] Check out our Instagram feed @21FivePodcast for more great content and to see our collection of aviation license plates.
The statements made in this show are our own opinions and do not reflect, nor were they under any direction of any of our employers.
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