Join Marty as he sits down with Matt Hill, co-founder and CEO of Start9 Labs, to discuss:

- Founding Start9 Labs

- The Embassy

- Routing around Apple's App Store

- Why personal hardware is an imperative moving forward

- Self-sovereign surveillance

- Making all of this easy

- much more

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Check out Start9 Labs' Embassy

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