In this episode, we’re joined by the brilliant Shane Willard for a powerful and thought-provoking conversation on the gospel, reconciliation, and why Jesus prioritized tables over tablets. Despite a technical glitch, this AI-enhanced episode captures one of the richest interviews we’ve ever had. Shane unpacks theology with humor, clarity, and depth - covering everything from Acts 8 to redefining righteousness, and why true spirituality is about digging deeper wells, not building higher fences.

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00:00 - Intro & Audio Glitch Explanation
01:00 - Celebrating 100K Downloads
02:17 - Introducing Shane Willard
03:48 - Cultural Impact & Leadership at Hill City
05:48 - Wells vs. Fences Metaphor
09:01 - Acts 8 & The Ethiopian Eunuch
12:59 - Static Bible vs. Living Word
16:00 - Philip’s Dilemma & Living Scripture
17:30 - Shane's Theological Journey
21:36 - Reclaiming the Meaning of Words
25:30 - Righteousness, Generosity, and Biblical Language
29:30 - Tables vs. Tablets & Reconciliation
35:30 - Philippians Preview & No Grumbling Message
39:00 - Where to Find Shane Willard
43:00 - Missions & Children's Homes
45:30 - Closing Declaration