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Brant and Sherri discuss narcissism in the pulpit and ways to preemptively deal with it.

Quotes:

"If the system keeps producing something unhealthy, maybe it's time to ask if we need to keep the system?"

"If you have a stage and a spotlight, what do you think is going to happen?"

"This is all healthy; not just for the church, but for the person in the position and their family."

"We're supposed to know the people we're doing life with—not just watch them from a distance."