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There is a lot happening in federal policy that may affect healthcare payment transformation and care delivery. But we’ve said it before: healthcare leaders can’t afford to focus on fighting near-term fires at the expense of driving long-term success and sustainability. Amidst the uncertainty, it’s more important than ever to push forward conversations about how we can structurally evolve our systems to align incentives to patient health.
So, in this episode, we’re talking about value-based care. Host Abby Burns invites Advisory Board expert Clare Wirth and Optum Advisory expert Erik Johnson to unpack the state of VBC in early 2025, and where they see it going next. They debate whether bundles can truly be considered “value-based care,” how specialty care will fit into the future VBC landscape, and which payer lines of business they have their eyes on.
Links:
Value-based care landing page
Optum Advisory can help you design a VBC strategy that drives sustainable growth and profitability. Get in touch
Advisory Board is a subsidiary of Optum. All Advisory Board research, expert perspectives, and recommendations remain independent.
A transcript of this episode as well as more information and resources can be found on RadioAdvisory.advisory.com.
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There is a lot happening in federal policy that may affect healthcare payment transformation and care delivery. But we’ve said it before: healthcare leaders can’t afford to focus on fighting near-term fires at the expense of driving long-term success and sustainability. Amidst the uncertainty, it’s more important than ever to push forward conversations about how we can structurally evolve our systems to align incentives to patient health.
So, in this episode, we’re talking about value-based care. Host Abby Burns invites Advisory Board expert Clare Wirth and Optum Advisory expert Erik Johnson to unpack the state of VBC in early 2025, and where they see it going next. They debate whether bundles can truly be considered “value-based care,” how specialty care will fit into the future VBC landscape, and which payer lines of business they have their eyes on.
Links:
Value-based care landing page
Optum Advisory can help you design a VBC strategy that drives sustainable growth and profitability. Get in touch
Advisory Board is a subsidiary of Optum. All Advisory Board research, expert perspectives, and recommendations remain independent.
A transcript of this episode as well as more information and resources can be found on RadioAdvisory.advisory.com.

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