This week, Preston chats with Corey Oakley and Ben Ricks from the North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission (NCWRC). They are the duo that hosts NCWRC's Better Fishing With 2 Bald Biologists monthly podcast. Corey and Ben discuss their career journeys before diving into the story of the podcast. They also highlight some favorite episodes and provide some tips for any other state agency staff that are considering starting a similar podcast. We hope that you enjoy this episode!

Main point: "Be honest, be kind, and understand that conservation starts with the willingness of people to want to conserve the resource."

The 2 Bald Biologists' email address: [email protected]

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