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Fady Joudah is a Palestinian poet and physician who just released a poetry collection on the genocide in Gaza. In this episode, Yousef Aljamal, Helena Cobban, and Tony Groves talk about poetry, memory, Gaza, Refaat Alareer and silence. Fady argues that the world should listen to the Palestinians and practice silence when they do. The title of his new poetry collection is something you will interpret for yourself.

The book is available here: https://milkweed.org/product/2922

And here:https://www.outspokenldn.com/shop/fadyjoudah

The Damien Dempsey Podcast is out now here:https://www.patreon.com/posts/patron-exclusive-99392216

If I Must Die is performed by Rachel Lynn