In our final part of our 2 part conspiracy special, we chat with Marcus and we are joined by Colin Philp who orchestrated the original BIS event, that this podcast episode found it's inspiration, 5 years ago almost to the day.

Listen to the end to hear our shocking conclusion.

Van Allen belt, heat shields, Orion, photos, ...what can Marcus say to persuade us?

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