Animal Behavior Conversations: The Podcast of The ABMA

34: The Human-Animal Connection - Evaluating Our Relationships with Chris Jenkins, Marni Wood, and Justin Garner, The ABMA Board of Directors


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This episode continues the learning of Behavior Month 2023 with special guests from The ABMA Board of Directors; Chris Jenkins, Marni Wood, and Justin Garner. The panel of guests discuss this week's theme for Behavior Month 2023: The Human-Animal Connection. The panel talks about the importance of having strong, trusting relationships with animals and tackles the questions: how do we evaluate our relationships with animals and what makes for a "good" or a "bad" relationship? The panel also offers advice on how to grow a relationship through changing our own actions. Stayed tuned for a "Training Tale" from podcast host, Shane, about how his relationship with a red river hog paid off during a unique situation. For questions or suggestions about the podcast email [email protected] and to reach any of our panel of guests you can email [email protected], [email protected], and [email protected] Let's talk some training!

4:35 Introduction to Chris Jenkins, Justin Garner, and Marni Wood 

8:40 Human-Animal Relationships from an academic lens 

10:25 Building human-animal relationships in a modern setting 

16:25 What defines/how do you measure a “good” relationship 

20:15 What would cause you to define a relationship as “bad”

27:35 When and when not to take away from your trust account 

31:40 If the relationship needs improved, how do we strengthen it 

35:25 What can we, the human learner, change in our behavior

41:15 Reading animal body language 

43:50 Advice for building a stronger, better relationship 

51:00 The future role of human-animal relationships in welfare science 

52:50 “Training Tales” 


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