Kimberly Atkins Stohr speaks with Elie Mystal, author of 'Bad Law', about the flaws in American laws and the need for reform. They discuss the impact of bad laws on democracy, particularly focusing on voting and immigration laws. Elie Mystal emphasizes the importance of understanding the origins of these laws and advocates for systemic changes to create a more just society. The conversation highlights the need for smarter voting practices and the potential for expanding representation in Congress.