When Ben Selby joined me on The Firefighters Podcast, we had a wide-ranging and powerful conversation about the vital role of the Fire Brigades Union (FBU) and the evolving challenges faced by fire and rescue services in the UK. As the FBU’s Assistant General Secretary, Ben offered deep insight into issues like firefighter pay, recruitment, and the shifting demands of the job. We explored the importance of the Grey Book, the direction of a College of Fire, and the complexity of current duty systems. Ben also spoke candidly about the cultural dynamics within the service, the push for greater inclusivity and diversity, and the union’s work through campaigns like Fight for 52, which aims to improve maternity provisions for firefighters. Our discussion highlighted the growing risks of climate change, including wildfires, and reinforced the urgent need to support mental health, modernise working practices, and ensure firefighter safety and well-being in a rapidly changing world.

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