After sitting down with Shelley Zalis, Randy and Sharna return to reflect on the sobering reality that, if we keep going at this pace,  it could take 134 years to close the global pay gap. But does it really have to?

Sharna gets candid about the maternity gap, sharing her personal frustration with how much harder it feels in the U.S. compared to other parts of the world. From parental leave to affordable childcare, she wonders: Why is America still struggling to look at these issues through a lens of care, humanity, and shared responsibility?

To catch the full conversation tap the play button above. 

Shelley’s Links

Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/secupp/ 

Website: The Female Quotient 

Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/shelleyzalis 

Oldish Links:

Website: www.oldishpodcast.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oldishpod/

TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@oldishpodcast 

YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@OldishPod 

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