Welcome to another episode of Supra Insider. Following up on last episode’s discussion of the current PM market (episode 3), we wanted to add a new perspective to the conversation by inviting a product management recruiter to the show. 

In this episode, Marc and I are joined by James Jordan, the founder of Producto, a recruiting agency focused on PM hiring from ICs all the way to executives. James is coming up on two decades in recruiting and has a wealth of knowledge about the historical product management hiring landscape and the latest trends.

If you’re thinking about hiring a PM or are a PM looking for a new role, you’ll love this conversation.

In our chat with James, we cover a lot of ground:

* James’s read on the current PM hiring market and what’s changed in the last year

* Why do companies struggle to define what they want in their first PM hire?

* We also discussed how people managers are struggling to break into senior IC roles, how he evaluates ICs vs. execs, and his unique approach to doing references

* We conclude our chat discussing how most candidates are not using LI right, sleeping on networking, and where is the role of the Product going in the next couple of years.

I hope you enjoy this conversation and look forward to hearing your feedback. Thanks for listening!

Links

* James Jordan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesjordanrecruitment

* Producto: https://productotalent.com

* Product toolkit by Ravi Mehta - https://www.ravi-mehta.com/product-manager-roles/

Hosts

* Marc: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcbaselga/

* Ben: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benerez/

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