It's well documented that, for black people, navigating this world is hard. 2020 has brought on a whole host of new challenges, and shone a light on the prejudice and racism that people of colour must deal with and overcome. The murder of George Floyd reignited the Black Lives Matter movement and caused the world to engage in a real conversation about dismantling systemic racism, as well as the roles that individuals, communities and brands have in it.

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