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Episode 4: Ethan Nadelmann, founder and former executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance and host of the Psychoactive podcast.

This episode was recorded on July 20th, 2022.

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00:00:00 Foreword

00:02:04 Ethan and Finland.

00:02:47 Ethan's interest in drugs.

00:05:09 Cannabis, psychedelics and drug policy activism.

00:08:07 Psychedelic exceptionalism.

00:11:07 US Constitution and freedom.

00:15:31 Drugs and poison in Portugal.

00:17:26 The Founding Fathers and drug policy.

00:21:31 Freedom of religion and drug use?

00:27:50 Ethan's interest in drug policy reform.

00:32:11 Does the drug war equal prohibition?

00:34:18 Drug war rhetoric in the Philippines.

00:38:30 Drug policy, racism and stigmatization.

00:43:38 Jewish roots as a motivational force.

00:49:49 Drugs and the Third Reich.

00:55:49 Recognizing the end of the drug war.

01:01:12 The war on e-cigarettes.

01:08:47 Snus and nicotine harm reduction.

01:14:11 Black market cannabis after legalization.

01:22:33 Why does prohibition make organized crime more violent?

01:27:20 More effective policing, more violent gangs.

01:34:59 The drug war makes cops stupid and corrupt.

01:39:24 Finnish cops and drug policy reform.

01:44:18 The rise of American neo-fascism.

01:53:10 Reform and anti-drug conservatives.

02:02:28 Liberty, freedom and the left.

02:06:40 Should all drugs be legally regulated?

02:10:52 A dark legalization scenario.

02:14:00 The idea of "a drug free world" as a form of totalitarianism.

02:17:40 Short final questions.

02:22:49 Afterword

Ethan's Twitter https://twitter.com/ethannadelmann

The Psychoactive podcast https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-psychoactive-84544756

Drug Policy Alliance's web site https://drugpolicy.org/

Drug Policy Alliance's Twitter https://twitter.com/DrugPolicyOrg

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