Conflict. Division. Disagreements. Whether it’s with a neighbor, a co-worker, a friend—or even a stranger—navigating relationships isn’t always easy. Yet somehow, we’re called to love our neighbor. 

But what does that even mean? And how does it show up when relationships are so complicated?

Well, on this episode of the 4:13, author and Bible teacher Jada Edwards will challenge you to rethink what love is. Because (Spoiler Alert!) we often get love wrong! It’s nothing like how the world defines it!

So today, Jada explains what love really is and how understanding God’s divine version of love can change everything. You’ll learn how to tell if you're truly being loving—or just being nice—and five surprising ways to love others the way God intended.

So, if you’ve got someone in your life who’s hard to love—or you just want to learn to love others well—listen in! You’ll appreciate this deep, grace-filled conversation with my friend, Jada.

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In a noisy, fast-paced world, quiet can feel out of reach—like it’s a luxury reserved only for the super-spiritual, the ultra-disciplined, or those with endless free time. But quiet is, and always has been, at the heart of every single person, and it’s essential to our spiritual life and growth.

So today on the 4:13, author Sarah Clarkson is back with a powerful reminder: quiet is not about the absence of noise or distraction—it’s an orientation of the heart. 

Sarah will invite you to discover the profound impact of resisting hurry and cultivating a life of holy attention. Plus, she’ll teach you how small, practical shifts in your daily habits and mindset can lead to a richer, more present way of living.

I promise you are not too busy to embrace this. You’re too busy NOT to! So take a deep breath, and let’s reclaim quiet together.

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Do you ever feel intimidated when reading the Bible on your own? You’re not alone. Many of us want a deeper connection with God’s Word but find ourselves relying on devotionals or simply reading for information, without letting it truly change us.

Well today, The Navigators’ very own Bill Mowry will help you shift that mindset. 

He shares five powerful practices to help you encounter God every time you open the Bible. You’ll love his simple and memorable hand illustration, the four heart-check questions to ask before you even begin reading, and his practical encouragement for preparing both your posture and mindset.

Whether you’re a first-timer who wants to learn how to personally engage with God’s Word—or you’re a seasoned Bible geek who wants to fall in love with Scripture all over again—this conversation is for you.

So grab your Bible, listen in, and get ready to hold the Word in a whole new way.

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We’re all just trying to get through life in this messed-up world, and whether we realize it or not, we all go looking for a “fix” to help us cope with the pain, uncertainties, or difficulties we face. 

Sometimes those fixes seem harmless, and other times, they spiral into habits we can’t break.

So, today on the 4:13, best-selling author, psychotherapist, and Enneagram expert Ian Morgan Cron will challenge the way you think about addiction. He’ll explain what addiction really is, how everyone is addicted to something, and why the 12 Steps aren’t just for alcoholics—they’re for all of us.

Whether you’ve struggled with overeating, overworking, perfectionism, or just find yourself stuck in a bad habit or unhealthy cycle, you’ll discover that addiction isn’t just “their” problem. It’s all of ours. We’re all prone to self-destructive behaviors that ultimately create more problems than they solve.

But here’s the good news: there’s a path to freedom. And it’s not about white-knuckling your way through change—it’s about a grace-powered transformation that leads to spiritual awakening. 

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Lots of believers have questions about the Holy Spirit—like who is He? And should I “feel” Him? Does the Holy Spirit show up today like He did in the Bible? And why do other believers seem to have a connection with the Holy Spirit, and I don't?

Well, if you’ve ever wondered these things, you’re not alone—and you’re in the right place.

Today on the 4:13, Margaret Feinberg will take you on a journey through Scripture—from the Old Testament to Pentecost—to uncover how the Spirit has been at work since the very beginning. 

She’ll answer your burning questions about the Spirit, including how to recognize His work in you and around you, whether or not He still speaks to His people through dreams, and how to discern between something that is Spirit-led and something that is self-led.

And most importantly, she’ll help you realize that you don’t have to settle for just knowing about the Holy Spirit—you can truly know Him.

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Everyone longs for love—especially God’s love—even if they don’t realize it yet. So, why is it so hard to tell others about the love of God? 

For many of us, sharing the gospel can be intimidating! We often feel inadequate, afraid, or just unsure of what to say. But today, we’re facing those fears head-on! 

Dr. Derwin Gray joins us on the 4:13 and teaches us how to share the gospel—without pressure, without fear, and without needing to be perfect. You’ll learn to navigate the internal fears and external obstacles that keep you from telling others the good news, and you'll become equipped to communicate the invitation of Christ with authenticity and love.

So, if you’ve ever thought, “I want to share Jesus, but I don’t know how,” listen in! You’ll be reminded that God doesn’t call the equipped, He equips the called—and that includes YOU!

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I cannot wait for you to hear this today! Whitney Capps and the incredible ladies of Point of Grace joined me at a Fresh Grounded Faith event in Springfield, Missouri, and let me tell you, there was something extra special about this day.

Maybe it was because Whitney brought such raw honesty while in the middle of cancer treatments. Or maybe it was the sweet friendship and humility that Point of Grace radiated from the stage. Or maybe it was because someone in the audience tried to set KC up with her cousin, Brenda. 😂

Either way, we had a blast answering questions from the audience where Point of Grace shared how they got together, what happened when a “cease and desist” forced them to change their name 👀, and if they ever have any girl drama!

Plus, we opened up about whether it’s okay to tell God that you’re mad, practical ways to become self-disciplined, and how to walk with a friend through cancer.

It’s deep, it’s funny, it’s real—and it’s just what you need today. So get ready! We’re spilling the beans!

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A recent study found that over 40 million adults grapple with some form of anxiety or worry. Chances are, this includes you or someone you love. But don’t we all find ourselves worrying from time to time? I know I do!

So, what’s really causing our worry, and how do we know when our legitimate concerns cross the line into worry?

Well, today on the 4:13, Pastor Jonny Ardavanis gets honest about the underlying issues with worry and where we ultimately find our hope: in the character of God. With pastoral compassion and answers anchored in Scripture, Jonny explains how the antidote to anxiety isn't just trying harder not to worry, but learning to truly trust God’s unchanging character.

Because walking this out in faith isn’t just about believing in God, but in believing God.

So, if you're grasping for peace and starved for hope, listen in! You’ll get something far better than a quick fix—you’ll learn to fix your gaze on your Heavenly Father who loves you.

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Get ready to laugh, learn, and maybe even tear up a little as we spill the beans LIVE from a Fresh Grounded Faith event in Bloomington, Illinois! My good friends Margaret Feinberg and Michael O’Brien joined me, and what an honest, hope-filled conversation we had in answering questions from the audience.

We talked about the best way to handle stress and worry, how to know if God is calling you to step back in ministry, and what to do when grief knocks the wind out of you.

Michael opens up about how his identity took a hit when he left the band, NewSong, and Margaret tells a hilarious (and slightly horrifying) story about showing up to an event without her pants. Yep, it happened!

Today, we’re answering your big questions, sharing our most embarrassing moments, and reminding you that God is present—even in the hard stuff.

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In this episode of the 4:13, we’re heading back across the pond to chat with Rev. Chris Lee—an English vicar whose sixty-second sermons on Instagram have resonated with millions of people around the world. 

Why? Because with all of the constant noise and distractions that keep us from entering the presence of God, his sermons are a timely invitation to pause, breathe, and remember who you are before God—something our entire 4:13 family needs to do. 

So today, I’ve asked Rev. Chris to lead the charge! 

He’ll teach you to step back from the chaos, quiet your soul, and remember you are God’s beloved. And, my friend, what a difference it makes when you are still before God, focus on His promises, and ponder His incredible love for you!

So, let’s do it! Settle in, take a deep breath, and turn your gaze to God.

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