"When we find ourselves with nothing else, and we're forced to rely on God, that's when we find that he's enough."

— Scott Dunford

Today's Episode:  Life doesn't always turn out the way we'd hoped it would. And Pastor Scott Dunford is no stranger to wading through disappointments, both with other people and personally. In today's episode, Scott walks us through some of the hardest questions he's faced both in ministry and in life. He reflects on why good people suffer and bad people thrive. He reminds us of the truth of God's promises and how we can practically rely on him and on his people through seasons of difficulty and doubt. Regardless of your particular season, you'll be encouraged to remember that God is enough, both now and forever.

This month's memory verse: "My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever." — Psalm 73:26

Today's guest: Scott Dunford is a pastor and missionary leader with over two decades of experience in vocational ministry. He currently serves as the Lead Pastor of Western Hills Church in San Mateo, California. Scott also the is the co-host of The Missions Show, where he discusses theology and cross-cultural ministry to help "goers think and thinkers go.”

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• Find out more about Scott on his church's website or instagram.
• Renew your commitment to daily Scripture reading and start fresh today at TheOneYearBible.com.
• Discover more about the resurrection in The “If” That Changes Everything by Mike Hood. Use code IF to receive 30% off your copy at thegoodbook.com.
• Develop life-changing habits in the Disciplines of Devotion series. Get 30% off at here with a free Crossway Plus account.
• Discover God’s heart for you through deeper study and reflection in Every Woman's Bible.

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"Where's your heart at? What are you longing for? Are you longing for things other than God?"

— Natalie Abbott

Today's episode: On today's episode, Dwell Differently sister Natalie and Vera are asking us this question: What if God was truly your best thing? It's foundational...and it's also really hard to live out. They talk honestly and practically about what it looks like in their own lives to navigate the challenges and the benefits of trusting in God and loving him the most. You won't want to miss it!

This month's memory verse: "My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever." — Psalm 73:26

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Links from today's show: 

• Discover more about the resurrection in The “If” That Changes Everything by Mike Hood. Use code IF to receive 30% off your copy at thegoodbook.com.
• Develop life-changing habits in the Disciplines of Devotion series. Get 30% off at crossway.org/disciplinesofdevotion with a free Crossway Plus account.
• Renew your commitment to daily Scripture reading and start fresh today at TheOneYearBible.com.
• Discover God’s heart for you through deeper study and reflection in Every Woman's Bible.

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"The Lord sometimes reveals himself to us and shows himself to us in ways that we wouldn't know apart from our flesh and our heart failing."

— Megan Hill

Today's Episode: Join Natalie Abbott and Megan Hill as they discuss both individual failure and corporate failure in the church and how God meets us in both places. Megan gives spiritual insights and practical advice for how we can deal with our own doubts and disappointments by honestly bringing them to God and relying on others to lift us up. She also gives us some helpful categories for understanding the failures of others in the church, and she walks us through what we can do when we experience those hurts first-hand. It's a great conversation that helps us understand a biblical framework for how God is always at work even through our failures, both individually and corporately. 

This month's memory verse: "My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever." — Psalm 73:26

Today's guest: Megan Hill is the managing editor for The Gospel Coalition. She is also the author of several books for adults and children, most recently Sighing on Sunday: 40 Meditations for When Church Hurts and Sabbath Rest. Megan lives with her husband and four children in Massachusetts where they belong to West Springfield Covenant Community Church (PCA).

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Links from today's show: 

• Find out more about Megan here. Dealing with church hurt? Get Sighing on Sunday here.
• Discover more about the resurrection in The “If” That Changes Everything by Mike Hood. Use code IF to receive 30% off your copy at thegoodbook.com.
• Develop life-changing habits in the Disciplines of Devotion series. Get 30% off at crossway.org/disciplinesofdevotion with a free Crossway Plus account.
• Discover God’s heart for you through deeper study and reflection in Every Woman's Bible.

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"He takes his doubts about God to God...He's modeling what we should do."

— Natalie Abbott

Today's episode: Join Natalie as she dives into Psalm 73, revealing how one man's doubts, envy, and personal suffering led him to the powerful conclusion that God is indeed good to those who follow him. If you’ve ever struggled with doubt or wondered why the wicked prosper while you suffer or needed a reminder that God indeed cares for you, then this episode is for you. 

This month's memory verse: “My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever.” — Psalm 73:26

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Links from today's show: 

• Find out why the resurrection matters in The “If” That Changes Everything by Mike Hood. Use code IF to receive 30% off your copy at thegoodbook.com.
• Develop life-changing habits in the Disciplines of Devotion series. Get 30% off at crossway.org/disciplinesofdevotion with a free Crossway Plus account.

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"He does not promise to deliver you from hard times. He does not promise to deliver you from hard relationships. He does promise to deliver you from besetting sin, and that is a far better promise."

— Jen Wilkin

Today's Episode: Join Natalie Abbott and Jen Wilkin as they discuss God's unwavering presence and promises. They explore those themes through the lens of Joshua's life. Jen explains how God's work in Joshua's story intersects with his work in the greater story of the Bible and in the lives of believers today—delivering us from our sins just as he delivered God's people into the promised land. You'll be encouraged to find strength and courage in God's enduring faithfulness.

This month's memory verse: "The Lord himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged." — Deuteronomy 31:8

Today's guest: Jen Wilkin is an author and Bible teacher from Dallas, Texas. She has organized and led studies for women in home, church and parachurch contexts. An advocate for Bible literacy, her passion is to see others become articulate and committed followers of Christ with a clear understanding of why they believe what they believe grounded in the Word of God. Recent titles include Joshua, Deep Discipleship, You are a Theologian and Women of the Word.

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Links from today's show: 

• Check out Jen's new Bible study: Joshua: Every Good Promise Fulfilled.
• Memorize Joshua 21:45 with a free phone lock screen.
• Get 30% off The Hebrews Bible Study with a free Crossway Plus account.
• Start studying your Bible with The EASY Bible Study Method. 
• Get 30% off Friend of Sinners at thegoodbook.com with the code: FRIEND.

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"The deepest longing in our hearts, that maybe we don't even identify all the time, is that we want him. We want him...himself."

— Natalie Abbott

Today's episode: Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz talk about what the courage that comes from God's constant presence. They talk through the promise in Deuteronomy 31:8 that God goes before his people, both leading them and giving them the thing they most need: himself. You'll be encouraged to step out in faith wherever God is taking you, knowing that he not only goes before you, he goes with you.  

This month's memory verse: "The Lord himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged." — Deuteronomy 31:8

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Links from today's show: 

• Get 30% off Friend of Sinners at thegoodbook.com with the code: FRIEND.
• Get 30% off The Hebrews Bible Study at crossway.org/hebrewsbiblestudy with a free Crossway Plus account.
• Find The EASY Bible Study Method at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever you get good books.

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"I know my heart, and I know my sin, and I know how frail and fickle and feeble my heart is. So...what a comfort to just keep coming back to the Lord. The Lord is faithful to his promise. He is faithful to his word here, that he will never leave or forsake, even when I am so quick and my heart is so prone to wander."

— Sarah Dargue

Today's Episode: Join Natalie as she sits down with sisters Felicity and Sarah from the Two Sisters and a Cup of Tea podcast to discuss the wonder of God's faithful presence with his faithless people. Together, they delve into Deuteronomy 31:8, discussing the beauty of community, the challenges of life, and the steadfast promise that God will never leave nor forsake us. Join them for an inspiring conversation about faith, courage, and the transformative power of Scripture in our everyday lives.

This month's memory verse: "The Lord himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged." — Deuteronomy 31:8

Today's guests: Felicity Carswell is from England but currently lives near Chicago with her book-selling husband, Jonathan, along with their two young sons, Rufus and Billy. She loves to teach the Bible, both locally and further afield, and disciple women on a one-to-one basis. She co-hosts, along with Sarah, the Two Sisters and a Cup of Tea podcast.
Sarah Dargue is married to David, and mum to Toby, Sam & Emily. They live in London, where her husband is the pastor of their local church. She loves teaching and training women in her church family through the women's ministry. She's the co-host of the Bible study podcast Two Sisters and a Cup of Tea, and the author of Bumps, Babies, and the Gospel.

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• Find out more about Felicity and Sarah at twosistersandacupoftea.com.
• Get 30% off The Hebrews Bible Study at crossway.org/hebrewsbiblestudy with a free Crossway Plus account.
• Find The EASY Bible Study Method at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever you get good books.
• Get 30% off Friend of Sinners at thegoodbook.com with the code: FRIEND.

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"Whatever precipice you’re standing on or whatever dark valley you’re walking through, whatever uncertainty, whatever diagnosis or decision or adventure or woe. The Lord himself goes before you. Yes, he himself. And he will be with you."

— Natalie Abbott

Today's episode: Join Natalie Abbott as she explores the profound promise in Deuteronomy 31:8 that God will never abandon his people. She delves into the enduring faithfulness of God to Joshua, to his people throughout time, and to his people still today. She shows how the promise that God will always be with us and goes before us, finds its fulfillment in Jesus. And she helps us see how God's constant presence offers us strength and courage in times of fear and discouragement. This message will encourage you to trust in the God who is constant and safe. 

This month's memory verse: The LORD himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged. — Deuteronomy 31:8

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• Get 30% off Friend of Sinners at thegoodbook.com with the code: FRIEND.
• Get 30% off The Hebrews Bible Study at crossway.org/hebrewsbiblestudy with a free Crossway Plus account.
• Find The EASY Bible Study Method at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever you get good books.
  
  

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"I want to speak the words of life. I want to believe the words of life. I want to speak over myself the words of life. And you just can't do that unless they're in you."

— Natalie Abbott

Today's episode: Join sisters and Dwell cofounders, Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott as they walk through the past year and how they were impacted by God's Word. You'll hear about the power and the importance of getting Scripture into your heart and mind. And hopefully you'll be inspired to memorize even just one verse and see how God will use his Word powerfully in your own life. 

This month's memory verse: “The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of deep darkness a light has dawned.” — Isaiah 9:2 

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Links from today's show: 

• Be encouraged with bite-sized biblical truth in New Morning Mercies: A Daily Gospel Devotional, by Paul David Tripp.
• Find empathy, wisdom, and real-life stories in When Dreams Fall Apart, by Jennifer Lucy Tyler.
• Dwell on God's character in Amazed: 30 Days of Growing in Awe, by Carolyn Lacey.
• Join Dwell Differently, and start memorizing in 2026!

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"One night I'm sitting out in my car, smoking a cigarette, and I look up at the church (cause it's always lit up) and the tree that's on the front corner...is engulfed in flames. I got joy for a second, you know. Like, 'oh this is good.' But I'm looking at it, and it's burning...but it's not being consumed."

— Patrick Mahon

Today's Episode: Listen in as Natalie's friend Patrick Mahon shares his remarkable testimony of God's work in his life to bring him out of the kingdom of darkness and into the kingdom of light. It's a powerful story of miraculous transformation. You won't want to miss it! Note: this episode is not appropriate for younger listeners. 

This month's memory verse: “The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of deep darkness a light has dawned.” — Isaiah 9:2 

Today's guest: Patrick Mahon is a member of Central Church in Jefferson City, Missouri, where Natalie's husband is the pastor. 

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Links from today's show: 

• Be encouraged with bite-sized biblical truth in New Morning Mercies: A Daily Gospel Devotional, by Paul David Tripp.
• Find empathy, wisdom, and real-life stories in When Dreams Fall Apart, by Jennifer Lucy Tyler.
• Dwell on God's character in Amazed: 30 Days of Growing in Awe, by Carolyn Lacey.
• Join Dwell Differently, and start memorizing in 2026!

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Follow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.