"Something that I think a lot of us miss is this: In our lives, our love has become transactional. Our love has become very much 'if you do for me, then I'll do for you.' But that's not sacrificial love. That's not the love of Christ."

— Jon Nelson

Today's Episode: Natalie is talking with Pastor Jon Nelson about loving people outright—not because they've done something to earn it, or because they're easy to love, but because we have been undeservedly loved by Jesus. They discuss the challenges of laying down our prerogatives and our schedules and our stuff to love other people. You'll hear Jon share the profound words of a dying friend, talk about the concept of selflessness and deference, and you'll find out what it means to love someone even when they're "tore up from floor up." Be ready to learn, to be challenged, and to laugh.

This month's memory verse: “This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters.” — 1 John 3:16 

Today's guest: Pastor Jon C. Nelson is a native of Kansas City. He is the founder and Lead pastor of Soma Community Church, a multi-ethnic, multi-generational church in Jefferson City, MO. He is a graduate from Midwestern Baptist Theological College, where he holds a degree in Biblical Studies and Pastoral Leadership. He is a bold leader and passionate communicator deeply dedicated to the Great Commission of Christ, the equipping of disciples, and the spread of the Gospel across the nation and around the world. Jon has been married to his wife, Heather, since 2004.  His greatest joy outside of Jesus is being married to his wife and being a father to their four children.

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"Sometimes it just comes down to 'being inconvenienced' and just being there for people."

— Vera Schmitz

Today's Episode: Natalie and Vera are talking about the barriers that keep us from loving people well. Maybe it's time or money or busyness or distance... Whatever it is for you right now, this episode will challenge you to take the next small step to remove the barrier the keeps you from being there for someone. Maybe it's a simple as buying stamps so you you can send them a note.

This month's memory verse:  “This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters.” — 1 John 3:16

 
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"God gets into the specifics of what's going on in our hearts and says, 'this is what's keeping you from fully walking in my love.'" — Jada Edwards

Today's Episode:  What's hindering your relationship with God? In today's episode, Jada Edwards encourages us to ask God to tell us. She challenges us to ask God to reveal those barriers and to heal whatever shame, pain, sin, or trauma we're holding onto. The hope is that we would grow closer to God, experience more of his love, and in turn love others more deeply and freely. Jada helps us see from her own life and example how this is possible when we ask God to show us our hearts. 
 
This month's memory verse: “This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters.” — 1 John 3:16 

Today's guest:  Jada Edwards is an author, speaker, Bible teacher, and mentor. Studying and teaching the Bible to women is one of her greatest passions, along with discipleship and living on mission. While she is a lively and sought-after speaker, the local church is her home. She and her husband, Conway, planted One Community Church in Plano, TX, where she leads a regular women’s Bible study and serves on the teaching team and as the Creative Services Director. Jada enjoys spending time with Conway and their two children, Joah and Chloe, particularly around the dinner table. Her new book, A New Way to Love Your Neighbor, will be available nationwide on April 22, 2025. 

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"You don’t have to wait anymore. Your home is here, and he’s welcoming you in. Always. If you’ve never been, or if you've been wandering a while, the door is open. The door is always open. His arms are always open. Always." — Natalie Abbott

Today's episode:  Are you walking in the love of Jesus? Like really, really? Are you grounded in the full and beautiful, biblical definition of that love? And are you loving others in the same way? These are the questions Natalie Abbott is discussing on today's episode about the love of God for us in Jesus. You won't want to miss it. And you may just want to share it with a friend who needs to hear it too!

This month's memory verse:  "This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters.” — 1 John 3:16 

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"Christ abiding in us and us abiding in Christ is simultaneously something incredibly mysterious and something incredibly ordinary." — Courtney Doctor

Today's episode: Listen in as Courtney Doctor elaborates on the profound mystery of Christ dwelling in us...right alongside the ordinary reality of us spending regular time in his Word. She helps us understand the practical application of this verse, the difference between abiding and striving, and what it looks like to have fruitful lives. 
 
This month's memory verse: “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.” — John 15:5  

Today's guest: Courtney Doctor received an MDiv from Covenant Theological Seminary and currently serves as the Director of Women’s Initiatives for The Gospel Coalition. She is a Bible teacher and author of , From Garden to Glory as well as several Bible studies including Titus: Displaying the Gospel of Grace, In View of God’s Mercies, and Behold and Believe. Courtney and her husband Craig have four children, five beautiful grandchildren, and a goofy dog named Walter.

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"Yet there is someone, Jesus, who is offering abundant life and everything you could ever need. Come and drink and be satisfied. He is offering himself as life and power and peace. All you need to do is rest and abide in him."
— Vera Schmitz

Today's Episode: What does it look like to live a fruitful life? How do we go from feeling all used up and empty to finding joy and peace and energy? That's what sisters, Vera and Natalie are talking about on today's episode. They talk about the pitfalls of trying to do things on our own, the beauty of abundance in Jesus, and even the pain of being pruned by hard situations. We hope you're encouraged by this practical and helpful conversation.   

This month's memory verse: “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.” — John 15:5

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"What a miracle that he loves me the way he does, and that I get to love him back. It's just incredible." — Jeannie Cunnion

Today's Episode:  What happens when you ask God for more...of himself? He gives it! And it is good and vulnerable and beautiful. Want to hear more about it? Listen in to today's conversation with Jeannie Cunnion about her right-now, daily experience of Jesus. You'll be inspired and encouraged to ask God for more of himself too! 
 
This month's memory verse: “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.” — John 15:5  

Today's guest: Jeannie Cunnion is a bestselling author and speaker whose most recent books and Bible studies include Closer to God, Mom Set Free, Don't Miss Out, and Never Alone. Her work has been featured on outlets such as the TODAY show, Fox News, CBN, and a host of popular podcasts. Jeannie holds a master's degree in social work, and she is the co-founder of The 509 Foundation. She and her husband, Mike, live in Greenwich, Connecticut, with their five boys. Connect with Jeannie at JeannieCunnion.com.

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"Even though the Holy Spirit is in us...we can grieve him. We can ignore him. We can go our own way. We can be in sin. We can not listen to the one who is guiding us. We can not choose to follow him." — Natalie Abbott

Today's episode:  Today Natalie Abbott is talking very practically about what it means to remain in Jesus and for him to remain in us. She answers how it is that Jesus is in us—whether his presence in us is experiential, emotional, symbolic or something more. She also unpacks the two specific ways that believers are to remain in Jesus. Finally, she encourages believers to share the abundant life we receive from Jesus with our friends. 

This month's memory verse: “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.” — John 15:5

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• Dig even deeper into God's Word (and memorize it!) in Natalie and Vera's Bible study and book: Dwell on These Things and Dwell Differently. 
• Read more about the mutual indwelling of the Father, Son and Spirit here.
• Read Galatians 5 for more on what it looks like to walk in step with the Holy Spirit.

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"Shame is an identity statement. It's saying not that I did something bad, but I am bad...And for the believer, that identity claim of shame does not stick. It's not true. By believing Jesus was who he said he was and did what he said he did, that means your identity is a child of God. Full stop." 

— Daniel Wendt

Today's Episode: Natalie is chatting about compassion with her good friend and christian counselor Daniel Wendt. Daniel shares his own story of grappling with God's goodness and compassion through a life-altering season in his early adulthood. He helps us see how God the compassion and forgiveness of God are available to all of us even (and especially) when we mess up and get caught in a cycle of shame. Finally, he unpacks the difference between offering compassion and forgiveness to those who hurt us and fully reconciling with them. It's a super helpful episode, one you won't want to miss! 
 
This month's memory verse: "Because of the LORD's great love we are not consumed, for his compassions never fail. They are new every morning; great is your faithfulness." — Lamentations 3:22-23

Today's guest: Daniel Wendt is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in Harrisburg Pennsylvania, helping individuals, couples, and families through his private practice. Additionally, he provides Faith-Integrated Life Coaching virtually for those residing outside of the state. Please reach out to [email protected] if you would like to connect with him. Daniel and his wife Samantha have two children and enjoy camping, hiking, and stressing out together while watching the Philadelphia Eagles play. 

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"When we think, 'But I'm too far away from God' or 'You don't understand what I've done or the shame that I carry around with me' or whatever it is... There is nothing so great that it can keep us from the compassion God has for us."
— Natalie Abbott

Today's Episode: How do we experience God's daily compassion for us? And how do we live it out? Thats what Dwell Differently co-founders and sisters, Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz, are talking about today. You'll hear about God's loyal and limitless compassion and love towards his children, our experience of him, and how we can live like him when we show love and compassion towards others.   

This month's memory verse: "Because of the Lord’s great love we are not consumed, for his compassions never fail. They are new every morning; great is your faithfulness." — Lamentations 3:22-23

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