When you think of a software company that rakes in millions in profits, you would likely think of people grinding for long hours, with a 'hustle' mindset. 60+ hours a week trying to pull everything together. And for Jason Fried, this is not the case.

Jason is the co-founder and CEO of 37signals, the makers of Basecamp and hey.com. Jason is the kind of guy who believes it's not how much time you put in, but what you're doing with that time that matters.

Today he talks with Jon about how he built his business, how hustle culture isn't worth it, and the time he almost lost his company.

Find out more about Jason: 37signals | Basecamp | Hey | Twitter | LinkedIn | Jason's Newsletter

 

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