Earlier this year, the Legislature passed a bill to outlaw gender care — both surgeries and medicinal treatments — for minor children who are transitioning.

Now, a group of North Dakota parents are working with a group called Gender Justice to sue over the legislation, arguing that it's illegal.

Devon Dolney, a Fargo parent to a trans son, and Brittany Stewart, an attorney for Gender Justice, joined this Plain Talk episode to discuss their case.

Stewart said the legislation presents equal protection issues, as well as constitutional protections for life, liberty, and parental rights.

Also, on this episode, Sen. Kevin Cramer joined to discuss the Senate dress code and a potential federal shutdown.

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