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448: Pen vs. Presence: The Great "Notes" Debate with Meg Rentschler, MSW, PCC


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In today’s episode, I’m going solo to explore a question I’ve been asked dozens of times: “Should I take notes during my coaching sessions?” As with many things in life, this is not a black or white issue, and the experts are divided over their answers. It’s a simple question that doesn’t have a simple answer! Join me to weigh the ins and outs of the “great notes debate.” 

Show Highlights:

  • There are two sides of the coin with strong opinions on both:
  • Side 1: Taking notes during sessions:
  • Note-taking can make you a better listener. (Are you distilling the info down to the essence of the conversation or trying to capture EVERY detail?)
  • It gives the coachee a “break” from being stared at.
  • My personal experience in documentation 
  • Taking notes helps track details, progress, and accountability. 
  • Side 2: Minimal note-taking (or the “less is more” mindset):
  • Our job is to hold space for the client to process through the session; note-taking is not necessary.
  • Note-taking can slow you down to the point that you won’t “end up” at the same place as your client.
  • Note-taking can cause you to miss nonverbal cues from the client. 
  • The big question around taking notes: What is the purpose of your notes?
  • Grounding with ethical principles in coaching around legality, records, privacy, etc
  • What seasoned coaches say about their notes regarding transparency
  • Finding middle ground in the Great Notes Debate
  • The science of what happens in our brains: 
  • Divided attention vs. deep, empathetic listening
  • Deciphering body language
  • Is note-taking truly about helping the client move forward?
  • Workable solutions to find middle ground: use appropriate forms, practice strategic note-taking (the two-layer approach, ABC framework, and technology tools)
  • Meg’s advice: “Craft your own approach and find what works for you to serve your clients best and maintain the integrity of the coaching relationship.”
  • To beginning coaches: “Give yourself permission to experiment while building your curiosity and presence muscles.”

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