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Rich Villodas sits down with Megan Fate Marshman to discuss the impact of grief on spirituality and how her own grief journey has affected the way she leads. Together, they discuss different struggles she has faced as a preacher and how to slow down in today’s hustle culture. 

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• Watch this episode on Barna’s Youtube Channel
• Watch the full State of Pastors webcast replay
• Access the State of Pastors journal on Barna Access Plus
• Learn more about Megan Marshman’s latest book, Relaxed: Walking with the One Who Is Not Worried about a Thing

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