Chris Berg says that he once had a boss, when he was a talk radio host for AM1100 "The Flag" in Fargo, who told him that he was supposed to be infuriating his audience.

"You gotta get people angry," Berg says he was told (he said people will think he was talking about host Scott Hennen, but that it was someone else).

In addition to talk radio, Berg was the host of the politically-themed 6:30 Point of View on Valley News Live in Fargo for nearly a decade, and he often succeeded in making his audience angry.

Berg has moved on from the media industry — he is now working in commercial real estate in California — and he has some regrets.

"Turn off the TV and talk radio," he now says, despite working in those media for more than a decade.

"Take off the red or blue glasses and challenge yourself," he added.

"I felt like I was dragging myself to the microphone," Berg told me on this episode of Plain Talk. He said that shortly after he moved to California, news broke of a school shooting in Tennessee, and despite the awful news, he felt a sense of relief that he wouldn't have to spend hours having the same old shout fest about it without anything meaningful getting done.

"The sad thing about the media business is the more anger and hate you sow, the more money you make," he said.

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