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Jared, Oriana and Ned talk about Jared’s choice of topic: worldbuilding.
Tolkien is so heavily identified with the concept of worldbuilding that a map
of Middle-earth represents the topic on Wikipedia, and his impact in both
fantasy and beyond regarding how a world that is not this actual globe we live
on is perceived and presented has continuing afterechoes that don’t look to
disappear anytime soon. At the same time, what exactly worldbuilding IS is a
hardly an agreed upon formal standard anywhere, and the amount of work that’s
been put into developing a story setting in any number of media, not just that
of fantasy novels much less novels in general, is vast, varied and takes many
particular forms. Meanwhile, Tolkien’s own approach as to what worldbuilding
is comes out of his own particular personal and philosophical conclusions, and
doesn't always take the form of what a more stereotypical approach to the
subject might be in the current day. What makes the idea of Middle-earth so
compelling to readers entranced by his works, and what drives them to learn
more about it or to elaborate on it in their own right? What other creators,
in fiction and beyond it, successfully approach similar levels of immersion,
and are there particular points of commonality to be found there? Are there
particular points in Tolkien’s stylistic approach that signal notable
strengths in creating the sense of Middle-earth as an actual place, and how
much of that might lie in a difference between received perception and the
reality of the work? And how much does Jared’s own forthcoming fantasy novel
drive this discussion? (A lot – and we’re going to be talking about that novel
a lot over time, don’t you worry – but also listen for initial news about our
live episode in Portland in April!)
Show Notes.
Jared’s
doodle –
makes you wonder what else is going on in this world shown here…
More about the HarperCollins Union
contract. Well done,
we say again.
The Lord of the Rings musical is coming
back! We’re still scratching our
heads a bit. (Listen in to our 2020
episode about it.)
The Watermill. It does
seem like a nice theatre…
Variety’s report on the Embracer/Warner Bros. Discovery deal
and the prospect of more movies.
A little more about Mike de Luca from
2011.
Still confused about the overall rights issues when it comes to Tolkien in the
first place? A handy Gizmodo explainer.
The announcement of Jared’s novel! Due for release next year,
and we’ll get you a preorder link when there is one.
More on that whole Doug Liman/Bourne Identity
thing. Ah, Hollywood power politics…
Worldbuilding! Yup, Middle-earth, right there.
Terry Pratchett, rest in peace. One of
the greats.
Sub-creation, how Tolkien
thought of his own creative impulse ultimately deriving from his own belief in
God as the ultimate creator.
Our episode on “A Secret Vice,”
Tolkien’s lecture about creating languages.
NaNoWriMo! It’s a thing, believe us.
Our death episode! (Very early
days for the podcast and the format’s a bit different but we were still
figuring it out!)
The Chekhov’s gun principle.
Oriana’s Star Wars comments specifically refer to
Solo.
Ioreth! There should have been more
of her but we’re glad we have her.
The ‘whispering to
date’ Twitter meme
origin. (Forgot what Chappie
is? So did everyone else.)
Ted Bundy – and yes we hope he’s
not part of your narrative either.
Our Rings of Power Season 1
episode. That did feel good to do.
N. K. Jemisin and the Broken
Earth trilogy – check it out. As well as: Frank
Herbert and
Dune! Ursula K Le
Guin and
Earthsea! Lloyd
Alexander and
Prydain! Steven
Erikson and Malazan Book of
the Fallen!
The Dark Crystal, still
awesome.
“As you know, Bob…”
The cats of Queen
Berúthiel and
Carn Dûm.
Our food in Middle-earth episode.
Enjoy talk about Roman sewers. And Amsterdam’s
canals.
M. R. James, so awesome.
Support By-The-Bywater on Patreon, and thank
you if you do!
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Jared, Oriana and Ned talk about Jared’s choice of topic: worldbuilding.
Tolkien is so heavily identified with the concept of worldbuilding that a map
of Middle-earth represents the topic on Wikipedia, and his impact in both
fantasy and beyond regarding how a world that is not this actual globe we live
on is perceived and presented has continuing afterechoes that don’t look to
disappear anytime soon. At the same time, what exactly worldbuilding IS is a
hardly an agreed upon formal standard anywhere, and the amount of work that’s
been put into developing a story setting in any number of media, not just that
of fantasy novels much less novels in general, is vast, varied and takes many
particular forms. Meanwhile, Tolkien’s own approach as to what worldbuilding
is comes out of his own particular personal and philosophical conclusions, and
doesn't always take the form of what a more stereotypical approach to the
subject might be in the current day. What makes the idea of Middle-earth so
compelling to readers entranced by his works, and what drives them to learn
more about it or to elaborate on it in their own right? What other creators,
in fiction and beyond it, successfully approach similar levels of immersion,
and are there particular points of commonality to be found there? Are there
particular points in Tolkien’s stylistic approach that signal notable
strengths in creating the sense of Middle-earth as an actual place, and how
much of that might lie in a difference between received perception and the
reality of the work? And how much does Jared’s own forthcoming fantasy novel
drive this discussion? (A lot – and we’re going to be talking about that novel
a lot over time, don’t you worry – but also listen for initial news about our
live episode in Portland in April!)
Show Notes.
Jared’s
doodle –
makes you wonder what else is going on in this world shown here…
More about the HarperCollins Union
contract. Well done,
we say again.
The Lord of the Rings musical is coming
back! We’re still scratching our
heads a bit. (Listen in to our 2020
episode about it.)
The Watermill. It does
seem like a nice theatre…
Variety’s report on the Embracer/Warner Bros. Discovery deal
and the prospect of more movies.
A little more about Mike de Luca from
2011.
Still confused about the overall rights issues when it comes to Tolkien in the
first place? A handy Gizmodo explainer.
The announcement of Jared’s novel! Due for release next year,
and we’ll get you a preorder link when there is one.
More on that whole Doug Liman/Bourne Identity
thing. Ah, Hollywood power politics…
Worldbuilding! Yup, Middle-earth, right there.
Terry Pratchett, rest in peace. One of
the greats.
Sub-creation, how Tolkien
thought of his own creative impulse ultimately deriving from his own belief in
God as the ultimate creator.
Our episode on “A Secret Vice,”
Tolkien’s lecture about creating languages.
NaNoWriMo! It’s a thing, believe us.
Our death episode! (Very early
days for the podcast and the format’s a bit different but we were still
figuring it out!)
The Chekhov’s gun principle.
Oriana’s Star Wars comments specifically refer to
Solo.
Ioreth! There should have been more
of her but we’re glad we have her.
The ‘whispering to
date’ Twitter meme
origin. (Forgot what Chappie
is? So did everyone else.)
Ted Bundy – and yes we hope he’s
not part of your narrative either.
Our Rings of Power Season 1
episode. That did feel good to do.
N. K. Jemisin and the Broken
Earth trilogy – check it out. As well as: Frank
Herbert and
Dune! Ursula K Le
Guin and
Earthsea! Lloyd
Alexander and
Prydain! Steven
Erikson and Malazan Book of
the Fallen!
The Dark Crystal, still
awesome.
“As you know, Bob…”
The cats of Queen
Berúthiel and
Carn Dûm.
Our food in Middle-earth episode.
Enjoy talk about Roman sewers. And Amsterdam’s
canals.
M. R. James, so awesome.
Support By-The-Bywater on Patreon, and thank
you if you do!
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