In this tender, very human conversation, Angell sits down with one of her closest friends, Dakota, to talk about death, loss, and what it really means to live with grief instead of bracing against it. Dakota shares candidly about losing her mom at 24, the cascade of losses that followed, and the recent back-to-back experiences that have shaped this past year. Together they explore how grief can look wildly different from person to person—needing space, wanting company, crying in waves, laughing in between—and why there’s no “right” way to do it. They talk about how to support someone who’s grieving without making it about you, the comfort of rituals and being with the physical body after death, and how loss can quietly rearrange your life: from career pivots to deepening relationships and finally asking for help. This episode is a soft place to land if you’re walking through your own season of endings, and a reminder that while death shifts everything, it often shifts us into who we’re meant to become next.

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