By-The-Bywater: A Podcast about All Things J.R.R. Tolkien

59. I Physically Recoiled from the Book at That Point.


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Jared, Oriana and Ned discuss Oriana’s choice of topic: Silicon Valley’s

misinterpretation and fetishization of Tolkien. Tolkien of course lived in a
time where computers were mostly huge rooms containing one machine or two that
he doubtless considered little more than another example of why the industrial
age didn’t suit his mindset on many fronts. But in the half-century since his
death the PC era up through smartphones and TikTok have made the industry one
of the biggest and most influential in the world – which is the problem. The
issues discussed are hardly limited to them but two of its most well-known and
notorious avatars in recent years, Peter Thiel and his protege Palmer Luckey,
have among other things named various businesses of questionable use and worth
(at best) after characters and terms from Tolkien’s legendarium as part of
their general quest to own everything and be everywhere whether one likes it
or not. There is, however, the small problem that they think they might be
Aragorns when it’s much more accurate to call them Saruman and Wormtongue.
What are the roots of Thiel’s own particular worldview in particular, shaped
by colonial legacies of the kind that Tolkien himself notably loathed? What
are the various poisonous ironies of naming particular businesses after
certain Tolkien-derived terms considering their original meaning and what they
now represent? Can the Tolkien Estate themselves actually do anything about
the use and misuse of such terms to start with? And why in the world did Thiel
think that a good choice of quote from Tolkien was in fact a quote from an
original Rankin-Bass song instead?

Show Notes.

Jared’s

doodle.
Remember, the idea is to NOT be this kind of person.

Queen Margrethe bows out, and hey, why not enjoy

retirement?

One of various pieces on Margrethe’s Tolkien

illustrations, with some relevant samples.

We share TheOneRing.net’s

piece mentioned for reasons of
completeness. Our eyes remain gimlet.

Never invent the torment nexus.

Peter Thiel. Great. Just great.

The biography Oriana and Jared read for the episode was Max Chafkin’s The
Contrarian.

Techno-fascism!

RETVRN! Terms that
should not exist but here we are. Umberto Eco’s “Ur-Fascism” is
worth your time.

Palantir Technologies.

Oh, how lovely. Human rights, what are
those! And why are they even slightly involved with the
NHS? (Beyond Tories being
Tories.)

Palmer Luckey. Another piece of

work, for fun! Founder of Anduril
Industries, about which
this 2018 Wired article reveals more maybe than anyone involved intended.

Ah, Ready Player One and

Ernest Cline. We’re…not fans.

If you want to know our thoughts on “The Greatest Adventure” and more besides,

enjoy our Rankin-Bass Hobbit
episode…

That whole taking your money with you when you die thing, jeez. Mother Jones

with the details. As
Ned said, go the Chinese burial
money route instead.

The Last Ringbearer aka

the Russian LOTR revamp, as we’ve referred to before.

Wicked the book is

not Wicked the musical.
(Soon to be Wicked the movie
musical.)

Tim Alberta’s book, which probably isn’t

light nighttime reading, is The Kingdom, The Power and the
Glory. This
excerpt mentioned focuses on his father’s church;
the further anecdote recalled is from another piece elsewhere, possibly by
Alberta.

Tolkien Gateway has some of the further details from Unfinished Tales on

palantir
technology as
such.

The TechCrunch article about Anduril Industries’s rather paranoid geopolitical

dreams.

Quick reminder about our orcs

episode and the various issues
that crop up with them. (Plus the Scouring of the Shire
episode.)

Blood in the Machine by Brian

Merchant takes a proper historical look at the
Luddites as part of a meditation on
labor and Big Tech in the present.

Thiel buying his New Zealand

citizenship was not great! At
least James Cameron put in the time and actually did
stuff.

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