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Rich Villodas talks with Jackie Hill Perry and Preston Perry about navigating the pull of technology, setting healthy family rhythms and keeping their marriage strong in the midst of ministry demands. They share honest insights on creating space for connection, managing digital distractions and trusting God with the pressures of parenting and leadership.

Episode Links

• Download Barna's Thriving Church booklet for 15 key dimensions of church health at Barna.com/measuring-what-matters.
• Hear more from Jackie & Preston on With The Perrys.
• Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.
• View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.