Benjamin Ramm is a writer, broadcaster and journalist who has produced work for the BBC, The New York Times and OpenDemocracy. He also used to edit 'The Liberal' magazine.

In this episode, Elizabeth talks to Benjamin about his identity as a 'non-religious, atheist Jew' who loves to go to Russian Orthodox mass, his religious and spiritual upbringing, and why he thinks poetry might provide a pathway for some who don't identify as religious, but believe in the value of faith. They also speak about the crisis and challenges of contemporary liberalism, and how his vision of a liberal future differs from that of previous guest of the show, Tim Farron.

'The Sacred' is supported by Theos Think Tank, the UK's leading religion and society think tank. It is hosted by Theos' director Elizabeth Oldfield, and produced by Hussein Kesvani and No Country Media.

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