“Yes, of course [we can salvage our relationship] because relations are more than two presidents. Historical relations, strong relations, are between our people. People.”

-President Volodymyr Zelensky

This is a companion episode to last year's "pishite pravdu"

John Lechner is a journalist who speaks more than seven languages, covering issues related to language, history, culture, and politics all around the globe. His book, Death is Our Business, is a dive into the world of Russian mercenaries, with exclusive interviews with over 30 members of the Wagner Group… how it got started, how it turned global instability into opportunity, and how it plays into what we’re seeing today...

Transcripts can be found at https://judebrewer.substack.com/

Music by John Fio.

Artwork by Allison Conway.

Writing and Production by Jude Brewer

Sources:

Full Meeting between President Trump, VP Vance and Ukrainian President Zelensky in Oval Office

President Zelensky on FOX - 2/28/25

Death is Our Business by John Lechner

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