<div>Something's Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode 4 
 
Mel + Rebecca break down the MarburyVMad (Corri Hopkins) MSP email dump from the Karen Read Trial and Mel breaks down the civil case of the 1st grade shooter who shot his teacher, Abigail Zwerner. 
 
TIP JAR: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips">https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips 
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And check out listener, Kristan Shimpi's blog, The Thoughtful Mom <a href="https://thethoughtfulmom.com/2025/11/01/somethings-off/?fbclid=IwY2xjawN52fBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeiaF6lnQKs_Mx1Id-8LZdku0mMMMiluD-VAhgB_Fu9EFNZwWs8uY0bJGYkpw_aem_TYDfVHFPSLTbIO4EMl85HA">https://thethoughtfulmom.com/2025/11/01/somethings-off/?fbclid=IwY2xjawN52fBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeiaF6lnQKs_Mx1Id-8LZdku0mMMMiluD-VAhgB_Fu9EFNZwWs8uY0bJGYkpw_aem_TYDfVHFPSLTbIO4EMl85HA 
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Something's Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode 4 Mel + Rebecca break down the MarburyVMad (Corri Hopkins) MSP email dump from the Karen Read Trial and Mel breaks down the civil case of the 1st grade shooter who shot his teacher, Abigail Zwerner. TIP JAR: https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips You can now join the channel! Click the join button to select your favorite level. Join the Investigator Club (The In Between Podcast) or Crime Writer's On Patreon for the audio drop of Something's Off, AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content. SO IN THE INVESTIGATOR CLUB: https://tinyurl.com/INVESTIGATORCLUB SO IN PARTNERS IN CRIME: https://tinyurl.com/SOCWOPIC Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow ‪@reblavoie‬ on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts And check out listener, Kristan Shimpi's blog, The Thoughtful Mom https://thethoughtfulmom.com/2025/11/01/somethings-off/?fbclid=IwY2xjawN52fBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeiaF6lnQKs_Mx1Id-8LZdku0mMMMiluD-VAhgB_Fu9EFNZwWs8uY0bJGYkpw_aem_TYDfVHFPSLTbIO4EMl85HA

Something's Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode 4 
 
Mel + Rebecca break down the MarburyVMad (Corri Hopkins) MSP email dump from the Karen Read Trial and Mel breaks down the civil case of the 1st grade shooter who shot his teacher, Abigail Zwerner. 
 
TIP JAR: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips 
</a> 
You can now join the channel! Click the join button to select your favorite level. Join the Investigator Club (The In Between Podcast) or Crime Writer's On Patreon for the audio drop of Something's Off, AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content. 
 
SO IN THE INVESTIGATOR CLUB: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/INVESTIGATORCLUB" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tinyurl.com/INVESTIGATORCLUB 
</a> 
SO IN PARTNERS IN CRIME: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/SOCWOPIC" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://tinyurl.com/SOCWOPIC 
</a> 
Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! 
 
Follow ‪@reblavoie‬ on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts 
 
And check out listener, Kristan Shimpi's blog, The Thoughtful Mom <a href="https://thethoughtfulmom.com/2025/11/01/somethings-off/?fbclid=IwY2xjawN52fBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeiaF6lnQKs_Mx1Id-8LZdku0mMMMiluD-VAhgB_Fu9EFNZwWs8uY0bJGYkpw_aem_TYDfVHFPSLTbIO4EMl85HA" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://thethoughtfulmom.com/2025/11/01/somethings-off/?fbclid=IwY2xjawN52fBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeiaF6lnQKs_Mx1Id-8LZdku0mMMMiluD-VAhgB_Fu9EFNZwWs8uY0bJGYkpw_aem_TYDfVHFPSLTbIO4EMl85HA 
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60: Something's off with the Karen Read email dump and VERDICT WATCH in the Zwerner 1st grade shooter case

<div>There’s the official story. And then there’s the truth. 
 
The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative. 
 
Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case, work that helped form the basis of a new habeas petition. In Season One, she revisits the trial that made Smart a national villain—and questions everything we thought we knew. 
 
Season Two, From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story, pulls back the curtain on a case where a 26-year-old Air National Guard member reported a sexual assault—and ended up the one in handcuffs. What happened next is more than a miscarriage of justice. It’s a warning. 
 
This is the space between the crime and the courtroom, the headlines and the hidden truth. This is The In Between. 
 
Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: <a href="https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&amp;utm_source=join_link&amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&amp;utm_content=copyLink">https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&amp;utm_source=join_link&amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&amp;utm_content=copyLink</a> 
 
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There’s the official story. And then there’s the truth. The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative. Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case, work that helped form the basis of a new habeas petition. In Season One, she revisits the trial that made Smart a national villain—and questions everything we thought we knew. Season Two, From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story, pulls back the curtain on a case where a 26-year-old Air National Guard member reported a sexual assault—and ended up the one in handcuffs. What happened next is more than a miscarriage of justice. It’s a warning. This is the space between the crime and the courtroom, the headlines and the hidden truth. This is The In Between. Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod TikTok: @jackofalltradesdc Web: inbetweenpod.com

There’s the official story. And then there’s the truth. 
 
The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative. 
 
Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case, work that helped form the basis of a new habeas petition. In Season One, she revisits the trial that made Smart a national villain—and questions everything we thought we knew. 
 
Season Two, From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story, pulls back the curtain on a case where a 26-year-old Air National Guard member reported a sexual assault—and ended up the one in handcuffs. What happened next is more than a miscarriage of justice. It’s a warning. 
 
This is the space between the crime and the courtroom, the headlines and the hidden truth. This is The In Between. 
 
Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: <a href="https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&amp;utm_source=join_link&amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&amp;utm_content=copyLink" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&amp;utm_source=join_link&amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&amp;utm_content=copyLink</a> 
 
Follow The In Between Podcast at: 
IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial 
FB: @TheInBetweenPod 
Bluesky: @inbetweenpod 
TikTok: @jackofalltradesdc 
 
Web: <a href="http://inbetweenpod.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">inbetweenpod.com</a>

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