This week Jeremy talks to artist / painter Chuy Hartman The two discuss designing Turnstile record release vinyl art, RPGs, Ghost of Tsushima, growing up in the San Fernando Valley, the Cobalt Cafe, Hanna-Barbera, his family's coffee shop, drawing at an early age, exploring different mediums, attending the art institute, interning at Epitaph Records, drawing live performances, working with Trinidad James, the immediacy of hardcore, his relationship with Turnstile, and so much more! Discuss this episode with Jeremy and other listeners: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thefirsteverpodcast Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/thefirsteverpod Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thefirsteverpatreon