Paul Dobson speaks with nonduality author and teacher John Astin.

John says that every experience has two fundamental dimensions. There is the description of whatever appears, and then there is the sheer presence or existence of it. The experiences we define as joyful and clear are, without question, distinct from those we describe as sad or confused. And it’s fine and understandable to prefer some states over others and then seek to have more of the ones we prefer. But what we're suggesting is that there’s another dimension of well-being that resides in the sheer presence and existence of things rather than in their descriptions.

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Music by Scott Buckley - https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/library/