Dr. Amol Navathe (@AmolNavathe), physician and health economist, speaks with Joe (@JoeShonkwiler) on the ACO Show. Dr. Navathe serves as the Co-Director of the Healthcare Transformation Institute at the University of Pennsylvania, a commissioner of the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission and the cofounder of Embedded Healthcare. He explains the role that behavioral economics can play in improving health care outcomes and lowering costs. They also discuss how the COVID-19 outbreak may motivate the U.S. health system to make permanent improvements.