In this deeply moving continuation of their conversation, Dr. Chez Leeby and Stephanie Boye welcome back Betsy Stephenson, author of *Blackbird*, for Part 2 of her powerful interview. Together, they explore the hidden signs of depression, especially in young men, through the lens of Betsy's late son, Charlie. The conversation spans parental grief, early mental health interventions, the need for community conversations, and the urgent importance of creating supportive environments for young people. This episode is a raw, empathetic, and essential look at the complexities of depression, grief, and healing.

"Depression is enough. Depression is huge. And that is enough of a reason." - Dr. Chez Leeby 

"If the kid had just gotten some breakfast, he might still be here." - Betsy Stephenson 

Topics Discussed:

• Misunderstood signs of depression in young men (irritability, frustration, lack of sleep/appetite)
• Personal reflections from Betsy and Dr. Chez on depression and emotional expression
• Charlie's story and the hidden struggles masked by outward success
• The coping mechanisms that may help change "the channel" during depressive episodes
• Betsy's unique experience writing her book during active grief
• The danger of toxic positivity and denying one's right to feel bad
• The cultural stigma around talking about suicide and grief
• Calls for mental health infrastructure in fraternities and college communities
• Importance of early intervention and recognizing symptoms in childhood

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction and Trigger Warning

00:19 Interview with Betsy Stephenson Begins

00:54 Understanding Depression in Males

02:57 Personal Experiences with Depression

07:17 Coping Mechanisms and Therapy

08:42 The Importance of Open Conversations

13:22 Early Signs and Seeking Help

23:08 The Impact of Transitions and Modern Pressures

27:05 The Danger of Comparison and Grief

28:12 The Importance of Validating All Feelings

28:42 The Pressure of Perfection

30:55 Betsy's Unique Approach to Writing About Grief

37:38 The Power of Checking on Friends

44:55 Addressing Depression and Mental Health in Fraternities

49:35 Recognizing the Signs of Depression

52:32 Final Thoughts and Resources

Resources Mentioned:

- *Blackbird* by Betsey Stevenson — [Buy the book](https://www.betseystevenson.com) 

  A memoir about grief and healing written in real-time by a mother who lost her son to suicide.

- National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline — [Call or text 988](https://988lifeline.org) 

  Free, confidential support available 24/7.

If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who needs to hear it. Subscribe and leave a review to help more listeners find these crucial conversations. And most importantly: check on your friends—it matters more than you know.

In this episode of 7 on Sundays, hosts Dr. Chez Leeby and Stephanie Boye sit down with writer and advocate Betsy Stephenson, author of Blackbird: A Mother's Reflections on Grief, Loss, and Life After Suicide, for a deeply moving and heartfelt conversation.

With vulnerability and strength, Betsy shares her personal journey through the unimaginable loss of her child to suicide and the ongoing process of healing after suicide loss. This is Part 1 of a two-part series offering insight into grief after the suicide of a child, the resilience of the human spirit, and the power of speaking one’s truth.

For any parent, family member, or loved one navigating suicide bereavement, this episode offers gentle support, real hope, and a space for healing. Whether you're coping with the suicide of a child or supporting someone who is, this conversation brings light to a path forward.

If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who might find comfort or connection in Betsy's story. Don’t forget to subscribe so you won’t miss Part 2 of this powerful conversation. And if you haven’t already, leave us a review—we truly value your feedback and support.

Topics Discussed

- Betsy’s experience of losing her son to suicide

- Writing as a tool for healing and reflection

- The emotional process behind *Blackbird*

- Navigating grief and honoring one’s emotions

- The role of community and support in healing

- Finding meaning and connection through storytelling

- Encouraging open conversations around mental health and suicide

Timestamps

00:00 Introduction and Trigger Warning

00:17 A Parent's Grief: Losing Charlie

01:02 Interview with Betsy Stephenson

01:56 Charlie's Story and the Impact of Suicide

04:05 The Importance of Honesty in Grief

07:53 Charlie's Hidden Struggles

10:39 A Mother's Efforts to Help

21:57 Charlie's Final Days

27:09 The Reality of Suicide for College Students

30:21 The Importance of Prevention and Support Systems

33:24 The Role of Diagnosis and Professional Help

46:13 The Impact of Toxic Masculinity on Mental Health

51:50 Final Thoughts and Resources

Resources Mentioned

- Blackbird: A Mother's Reflections on Grief, Loss, and Life After Suicide: https://www.amazon.com/Blackbird-Mothers-Reflections-Grief-Suicide/dp/1964721296 

  A memoir by Betsey Stevenson offering an intimate and powerful reflection on her journey through grief and healing.

- American Foundation for Suicide Prevention (AFSP)  https://afsp.org  

  A national organization dedicated to saving lives and bringing hope to those affected by suicide.

In this powerful episode of *7 on Sundays*, we sit down with Lily to discuss the challenges of post-college life, the dangers of binge drinking, and the journey to finding meaningful friendships and personal growth. Lily shares her deeply personal story of reckless nights, hard-won lessons, and the transformative power of faith and self-discovery. If you’ve ever felt lost, struggled with unhealthy friendships, or questioned your path forward, this conversation is for you. 

Topics Discussed 

●      The struggles of transitioning from college to post-grad life 

●      The impact of binge drinking and reckless behavior 

●      The wake-up call that changed Lily’s life 

●      The loneliness of leaving a toxic social scene 

●      How faith and self-reflection led to personal growth 

●      Building a supportive and like-minded community 

●      The importance of showing your true self on social media 

●      How to navigate rejection and find friendships that align with your values 

Timestamps

00:00 Introduction and Trigger Warning

00:17 Personal Story: Reckless Behavior and Consequences

01:22 Podcast Hosts Introduction and Topic Overview

02:50 Lily's Post-College Struggles

04:27 Turning Point: Finding a New Path

06:01 Building a New Community

08:03 Reflections on Loneliness and Isolation

16:57 Parental Perspective and Support

26:52 Navigating Rejection and Finding Your Tribe

27:54 The Wisdom of Friends and Family

29:47 Building Authentic Communities

33:03 Embracing Nature and Hobbies

34:25 The Power of Authenticity on Social Media

48:46 Final Thoughts and Farewell

Episode Overview

In this episode of 7 on Sundays, hosts Stephanie Boye and Dr. Chez Leeby welcome Thomas, who bravely shares his deeply personal experience navigating a complex and challenging relationship. His story sheds light on the growing normalization of extreme sexual behaviors, the influence of pornography, the impact of past trauma, and the struggle to communicate boundaries in intimate relationships. This conversation explores the emotional and psychological effects of these experiences, offering insight into a topic that is rarely discussed from a male perspective.

Topics Discussed

- The emotional and psychological toll of a relationship centered around extreme sexual preferences.

- How pornography influences sexual expectations and behaviors.

- The generational shift in sexual norms and the impact of peer reinforcement.

- The pressure on men to conform to dominant roles in sexual relationships.

- Thomas’s internal conflict between love and discomfort with his partner’s desires.

- The normalization of violent sexual behaviors and their emotional consequences.

- The long-term effects of unresolved trauma in relationships.

- The importance of open, honest conversations about boundaries and consent.

- How past sexual experiences and societal messaging shape current relationships.

Resources Mentioned

- The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk – Link: https://www.besselvanderkolk.com  – A deep dive into how trauma is stored in the body and impacts relationships. 

- 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline – Call 988 for free, confidential mental health support. 

- 7 on Sundays Website: https://www.7onsundays.com – Additional resources, past episodes, and community discussions. 

Timestamps

00:00 Introduction and Trigger Warning

00:17 Thomas's Story Begins

01:14 Introducing the Hosts and Guest

01:34 Discussion on Sexual Strangulation

02:20 Age Gap and Pornography's Impact

03:10 Thomas's Relationship Dynamics

06:26 Emotional and Sexual Discord

13:24 Thomas's Struggle with Strangulation

17:10 Impact of Pornography on Preferences

25:39 Therapy and Unresolved Issues

30:56 The Prevalence of Abuse

31:13 Normalization of Sexual Assault

31:37 Impact of Pornography on Perception

32:34 Peer Influence and Sexual Behavior

32:55 Communication and Misunderstanding in Relationships

35:11 Male Perspective on Sexual Expectations

37:48 The Trauma of Sexual Strangulation

41:32 Healing and Moving Forward

44:59 The Need for Open Discussions

56:05 Final Thoughts and Resources

Resources Mentioned

- The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk – Link: https://www.besselvanderkolk.com  – A deep dive into how trauma is stored in the body and impacts relationships. 

- 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline – Call 988 for free, confidential mental health support. 

- 7 On Sundays Website: https://www.7onsundays.com – Additional resources, past episodes, and community discussions.

Episode Overview

In this episode of 7 On Sundays, Natasha shares her deeply personal experiences with toxic relationships and the lessons she learned along the way. Joined by Dr. Chez Leeby and Stephanie Boye, the conversation explores red flags in dating, narcissistic behaviors, love bombing, and the emotional toll of gaslighting. This candid discussion offers valuable insights for anyone navigating modern relationships, emphasizing self-worth, awareness, and healing. 

Topics Discussed

- Recognizing Love Bombing – How excessive flattery and grand gestures can be a red flag.

- Understanding Narcissistic Traits – The difference between narcissistic tendencies and Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

- The Impact of Gaslighting – How manipulation can make someone doubt their reality.

- Self-Worth and Confidence – Learning to trust your instincts and walk away from harmful situations.

- The Role of Friends and Support Systems – How an outside perspective can provide clarity.

- Society’s Role in Toxic Relationships – The influence of social media, unrealistic expectations, and modern dating culture.

- Healing After a Toxic Relationship – Steps to regain confidence and rebuild personal identity.

Resources Mentioned

Book: *It Ends With Us* by Colleen Hoover – A novel depicting the cycle of abuse and toxic relationships.

Timestamps

00:00 Introduction and Trigger Warning

00:15 Natasha's Story Begins

00:57 Welcome and Topic Overview

02:03 Natasha's Dating Experience

09:12 Understanding Narcissism

11:37 Therapy and Narcissistic Traits

22:50 Natasha's Realization and Breakup

25:24 Moving Forward and Advice

37:04 Recognizing Narcissistic Behaviors

38:44 The Aftermath of a Toxic Relationship

39:17 The Importance of Self-Healing

40:49 Red Flags in Relationships

45:41 The Impact of Love Bombing

47:58 Cultural Expectations and Reality

51:21 Learning from Past Relationships

56:45 The Value of Authenticity

58:53 Final Thoughts and Advice

In this episode of 7 on Sundays, hosts Dr. Chez Leeby and Stephanie Boye welcome Danielle and Everett to discuss the complexities of friendships, particularly during college and young adulthood. They share their personal experiences navigating sorority life, forming meaningful connections, and the challenges of distinguishing genuine relationships from superficial ones. This candid conversation dives into the importance of authenticity, the evolution of friendships, and lessons learned through trials and triumphs.

Topics Discussed

●      The idealized expectations of college friendships vs. reality.

●      Navigating sorority life: the good, the bad, and the unexpected dynamics.

●      Identifying and fostering authentic connections.

●      The impact of societal and social media pressures on forming friendships.

●      Lessons learned from "ride or die" friendships that didn’t last.

●      The significance of quality over quantity in relationships.

●      Practical advice for young adults entering college and seeking meaningful friendships.

Resources Mentioned

●      Tyler Perry’s advice on friendships: LINK Madea-People are like leaves, branches, and roots (A reflective skit offering wisdom on the dynamics of true friendships.)

●      Suicide and Crisis Lifeline: Call 988 for free and confidential support.

Connect with Us

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In this impactful episode of "7 on Sundays," host Stephanie Boye engages in a deeply moving conversation with Andrea Heinz, Canadian author, advocate, and former sex worker. Andrea shares her personal journey through the commercial sex industry, her advocacy for the Nordic model, and the societal structures that perpetuate exploitation. This episode sheds light on the realities of sex work, the challenges of exiting the industry, and the urgent need for education and systemic change.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

●      Andrea Heinz’s Background: From her entry into the sex trade due to financial hardship to becoming an advocate and author.

●      The Nordic Model: A legal approach to prostitution that focuses on supporting individuals in prostitution while targeting buyers and exploiters.

●      Sex Work vs. Sexual Agency: Exploring the lack of autonomy and agency in the commercial sex industry.

●      The Impact of Hypersexualized Culture: How societal narratives glamorize sex work, leading many into exploitation.

●      The Challenges of Exiting: Insights into the emotional, financial, and societal barriers faced by individuals attempting to leave the industry.

●      John Schools: Programs aimed at educating men who buy sex and reducing demand through restorative justice.

●      The Importance of Education: Strategies to educate youth and adults about the realities of the sex trade and its systemic drivers.

●      Andrea’s Advocacy Efforts: Her book, docuseries, and public speaking engagements that aim to dismantle harmful sex work ideologies.

●      Andrea Heinz’s Book: When Men Buy Sex, Who Really Pays? Link to Purchase A powerful exploration of exploitation, survival, and advocacy within the Canadian sex trade.

●      CEASE (Centre to End All Sexual Exploitation): Website A Canadian nonprofit providing support to individuals exiting the sex trade.

●      Prostitution Narratives: Edited by Caroline Norma and Melinda Tankard Reist An anthology featuring Andrea’s essay under the alias “Kendra.”

●      Epic (EPIK): Website An organization intercepting transactions and offering support to men seeking to buy sex.

00:00 Introduction and Trigger Warning

00:15 Personal Stories and Industry Realities

00:59 Meet the Host and Guest

01:11 Andrea Heinz's Background and Advocacy

01:35 Understanding the Nordic Model

02:13 Andrea's Powerful Essay Excerpt

03:36 Sex Work and Sexual Agency

04:11 The Reality of Boundaries in Sex Work

04:58 Andrea's Journey and Insights

05:23 The Slippery Slope of Sex Work

06:00 The Challenges of Exiting the Industry

09:07 Legal Perspectives on Prostitution

14:05 Andrea's Personal Story

19:13 The Impact of Hyper-Sexualized Culture

25:32 The Stigma and Secrecy of Sex Work

27:49 Andrea's Public Advocacy

35:55 Understanding Trafficking and Pimping

40:46 A Story of Trafficking in an Open Marriage

41:34 Clarifying the Distinction Between Pimping and Trafficking

42:17 Personal Reflections on Trafficking and Coercion

44:06 The Complexities of Coercion in the Sex Industry

47:02 The Catalyst for Leaving the Industry

49:17 Educating Men About the Realities of Sex Work

50:19 The Impact of Pornography on Young Men

54:32 The Role of John's Schools in Rehabilitation

01:05:54 The Importance of Early Education and Intervention

01:12:11 Addressing Socioeconomic and Patriarchal Issues

01:15:41 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

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This week, we dive deep into the critical and under-discussed topic of non-fatal strangulation with expert Brian Bennett. A retired South Carolina law enforcement veteran and police academy instructor, Brian sheds light on the alarming realities of strangulation in domestic violence, sexual contexts, and beyond. Joined by Dr. Chez Leeby and Stephanie Boye, the conversation explores the physiological, psychological, and societal implications of strangulation, highlighting its role as a precursor to severe violence and the urgent need for awareness and intervention.

Topics Discussed:

●      The mechanics and dangers of non-fatal strangulation.

●      Recognizing strangulation in domestic violence and sexual contexts.

●      Long-term effects, including cognitive and physical complications.

●      The need for awareness in healthcare, education, and law enforcement.

●      Challenges in legislation and tracking strangulation cases.

●      Resources for education and support.

Resources Mentioned:

●      Institute on Strangulation Prevention: Free online training on non-fatal strangulation.

●      Nurse Joanne and Strangulation (YouTube video): A detailed explanation of why strangulation survivors need medical care.

●      Strangulation Law for SC (Facebook group): Updates, resources, and discussions around non-fatal strangulation in South Carolina.

Timestamps:

00:00 Trigger Warning

00:17 Coming Up In This Episode

00:57 Welcome and Guest Introduction

01:20 Expert Insights: Brian Bennett's Background

05:48 The Broader Scope of Strangulation

09:25 Signs and Symptoms of Strangulation

12:18 The Dangers of Sexual Strangulation

19:02 Long-Term Effects and Medical Complications

29:06 Raising Awareness and Training

30:46 Brian Bennett's Journey and Advocacy

34:08 The Need for Better Understanding and Conversations

40:15 The Dangers of Strangulation

40:57 Strangulation in Mixed Martial Arts

41:39 No Safe Strangulation

42:07 Personal Experiences and Misconceptions

44:43 Legislation and Legal Definitions

48:29 Strangulation as a Predictor of Violence

55:22 Medical Treatment and Awareness

59:20 Sexual Strangulation and Its Risks

01:07:21 Public Awareness and Education

01:08:24 Resources and Final Thoughts

01:13:34 Closing Statements

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In this enlightening episode, we welcome Harrison Haynes back to dive into the profound impacts of digital dependency and how intentional technology use can enhance our connections and well-being. Harrison, alongside hosts Dr. Chez Leeby and Stephanie Boye, explores the challenges of social media addiction, digital minimalism, and creating a life of presence. Through personal stories, actionable advice, and reflections, this episode offers a fresh perspective on digital intentionalism.

●      Technology and Relationships: How screens impact our connections and Harrison’s insights on restoring genuine relationships.

●      Post-COVID Social Dynamics: Challenges young adults face in rebuilding face-to-face connections after extended isolation.

●      Intentional Digital Practices: Harrison’s personal journey with a “dumb phone” and how it has transformed his relationships and personal growth.

●      Mindfulness and Digital Minimalism: Tips on creating spaces free from digital distractions to foster personal and communal healing.

●      Building Trust and Presence in Relationships: How setting boundaries with technology fosters stronger, more trusting relationships.

●      Weekly Digital Detox: Harrison’s practice of a regular digital detox and its benefits on his mental clarity and relationship quality.

●      The Light Phone 2LinkA minimalist phone designed to be used as little as possible, supporting digital intentionalism.

●      The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer Link Discusses the importance of slowing down in a hurried world, referenced by Harrison in his conversation on modern social spaces.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Introduction and Content Warning

00:17 The Impact of Technology on Relationships

01:01 Welcoming Harrison Haynes

01:19 Harrison's Mission and Technology

02:06 Post-COVID Digital Dependency

03:07 The Desire for Real Connections

03:40 Social Anxiety and Digital Distractions

06:18 Creating Intentional Spaces

10:30 The Digital Detox Journey

11:39 The Light Phone Experience

17:13 Mindfulness and Digital Minimalism

24:15 Weekly Digital Detox Practice

25:55 The Impact of Constant Availability in Relationships

27:17 Navigating Long-Distance Relationships with Limited Technology

27:48 The Healing Power of Limited Phone Use

29:20 The Dangers of Codependency and Urgency

32:18 Trust and Vulnerability in Modern Relationships

41:33 Practical Tips for Digital Intentionalism

46:35 Final Thoughts and Reflections

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In this heartfelt episode, Lexi shares her deeply personal journey of navigating physical and emotional challenges related to intimacy and sexual health. With the guidance of hosts Stephanie Boye, a seasoned sex educator, and Dr. Chez Leeby, a licensed marriage and family therapist, Lexi opens up about her experiences with hymenectomy, pelvic floor therapy, and finding the courage to advocate for her well-being. Together, they unpack the stigmas and societal pressures surrounding hookup culture, relationships, and self-discovery, offering listeners validation and insights into healing and empowerment.

Topics Discussed

- The emotional and physical challenges Lexi faced with tampons and intimacy.

- Diagnosis and treatment: Understanding hymenectomy and its impact.

- Pelvic floor therapy: Tools and techniques for overcoming pain.

- The emotional toll of societal pressures and feeling “behind.”

- Exploring hookup culture from a personal and reflective perspective.

- The importance of finding supportive doctors and safe spaces.

- Transgenerational trauma: How historical pain can manifest physically.

- Vulnerability and communication: Building trust in relationships.

Resources Mentioned

- **Pelvic Floor Therapy**: Learn more about pelvic health and therapy options [here](https://pelvicpain.org).

- **Psychology Today Therapist Directory**: Find a supportive therapist in your area: [Psychology Today](https://www.psychologytoday.com/).

• **"It’s Not a Trauma Olympics"** by Brené Brown: A guide to understanding and validating personal trauma.
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Timestamps

00:00 Trigger Warning

00:17 Coming Up In This Episode

00:51 Welcome to 7 on Sundays

01:29 Lexi's Early Struggles with Tampons

02:39 Discovering the Hymenectomy

04:08 Navigating Sexual Experiences

16:57 Pelvic Floor Therapy

20:43 Exploring Transgenerational Trauma

22:29 Exploring Historical Trauma and Female Bonding

24:23 Navigating Hookup Culture in College

25:01 Personal Reflections on Hookup Culture

Connect with Us

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- **Email**: [email protected] 

26:02 Challenges in Current Relationships

28:51 Communicating Vulnerability in Relationships

32:03 Mindset and Physical Tools for Pain-Free Intimacy

40:37 Wrap Up

42:03 The Importance of Validation and Finding the Right Physician

44:05 Final Thoughts and Encouragement