More than 85,000 participants attended the 28th Conference of the Parties to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change in Dubai, better known COP28, which ended in December. The big news: a call to governments to speed the transition away from fossil fuels. Susan Joy Hassol, author and climate change communicator, tells Stephanie Desmon that the final agreement is a hollow disappointment misaligned with the urgency of the climate crisis. They discuss the "minefield" of the growing climate emergency and what global leaders should be doing to put meaningful action behind commitments to addressing it.